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154960.438 in reply to 154960.437
Date: 8/26/2010 2:52:52 PM
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I'm totally not understanding how demo helps you if you pick towards the end if this is the case.

Am I making any sense at all? Lol...


This was my question, too. But I guess usually the top players should appear at the top. I dunno, can you come up with a better strategy? I am still not 100% convinced that the group demonstration is the right path. I can see the combine being helpful, but am still not sure.

Because: if you do the combine and the demo you only have 8 points left at the end of the season. So not really much hope of scouting anyone twice.

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154960.439 in reply to 154960.438
Date: 8/26/2010 2:57:54 PM
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Well what I did was combine + demo. Then some individual scouting. Perhaps I was unlucky but I didn't quite have enough points to check out some potential players. So I'm investing 40k a week till the end of the season to make up for it.

If I had another shot, I'd go with combine alone tbh.

I only realised that there wasn't a real point doing demo quite a few of the lower ranked players were 19.

I'd have gone combine -> individual scout all 18 year olds 190 cm and below -> interview

even then I'm not sure if i'd have enough points.... lol...

edit: sry.. I read your post... and didn't quite understand what you were asking.. so kinda repeated it :S but upon rereading, realised we were asking the same questoin

Last edited by Simply Vince at 8/26/2010 3:03:42 PM

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154960.440 in reply to 154960.438
Date: 8/26/2010 3:01:10 PM
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I think it depends on what you want to draft. So I would do the scouting combine which will reveal the age and the height of all the players.
Then find some players that you like.
So you might be looking for an 18 year old with 6'3 to 6'7 height.
So you might have 6 players listed in the entire draft that you like, without being able to see skills and potential.
Then scout each of these once, and if you get any 4 or 5 ball skilled players then scout them twice.
This will allow you to scout 2 players once, and 2 players completely.
But considering there might only be a few players in the draft that match what you want this shouldn't be too much of a problem.


Another strategy would be to do the group demo only, which would reveal about 20 players to you. And then use your scouting points on the 19 year olds that fit what you want because you could get a pretty good 19 year old player as most people put 18 year olds before 19 year olds.

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154960.441 in reply to 154960.437
Date: 8/26/2010 3:03:06 PM
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There is a benefit to bottom feeding. It's that it costs 50% less to scout.

Now depending on how many five balls you find in the group demo...then you can decide whether to look around for more stars or choosing to scout the good one's from the group.

So IMO 1) group demo first, 2) 2 scout star players OR scout age and height. Determined by what your demo finds.

Probably up to user from there...you still have to rely on luck.

Either go for 1 pick you really want, or finding 2-3 you'd be willing to roll the dice on blind. Actually you can probably do both but your top pick may not be as good as other top picks, but your bottom picks may fit better in your training.

Last edited by lawman at 8/26/2010 3:05:59 PM

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154960.443 in reply to 154960.442
Date: 8/26/2010 6:33:55 PM
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Given the number of times this has been asked, I don't think the BBs want to give out this information, but would rather it be part of what we as players work with and around. For what it is worth, I asked my league if anyone had the same heights for their first five guys (since my just posting the heights provided no real help to anyone, including myself, regardless of the answer) and was told by another that he did not have the same heights for his first five players. That tells me that each team does get a different order to the baseline ratings.

Last edited by Alec Burke at 8/26/2010 6:34:27 PM

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154960.444 in reply to 154960.437
Date: 8/26/2010 6:34:16 PM
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I'm a little confused. Isn't the starting ratings (street cred ratings from the scouts before any actual scouting) for the 48 players all random for each team? As in many players have said there are quite a few discrepancies between the players actual ratings and their street ratings from your scouts.

Which means each team in the league gets a different top set and bottom set right (randomise starting street cred set)?/


I have also been wondering about this and feel like it makes a bit of a difference in terms of how we use our points whether it is the same or different for each team in a league. Is there anyone, such as one of the BBs, who can positively confirm this or not for us?

I read through the explanation in the game manual, the Season 13 new draft intro and summary on the Edit Draft Order page and none of them clarifies this.

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154960.445 in reply to 154960.443
Date: 8/26/2010 6:36:02 PM
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I see... Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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154960.446 in reply to 154960.444
Date: 8/26/2010 9:15:30 PM
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20 pts went to Combine and Showcase. Then I spend almost an hour working out a potential order.. BIG MISTAKE!! I got logged out when I hit submit.

WHAT'S THE POINT OF LOGGING PEOPLE OUT WHEN THEY'RE CHANGING THINGS??

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154960.447 in reply to 154960.443
Date: 8/27/2010 3:44:44 AM
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Given the number of times this has been asked, I don't think the BBs want to give out this information, but would rather it be part of what we as players work with and around. For what it is worth, I asked my league if anyone had the same heights for their first five guys (since my just posting the heights provided no real help to anyone, including myself, regardless of the answer) and was told by another that he did not have the same heights for his first five players. That tells me that each team does get a different order to the baseline ratings.
Nice work. So this means if you do group demo and find good prospect, he might be on top of anther team which pick before you!
better go for combine and choose from the whole list using age and height.

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Date: 8/27/2010 3:53:05 AM
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I think it depends on what you want to draft. So I would do the scouting combine which will reveal the age and the height of all the players.
Then find some players that you like.
So you might be looking for an 18 year old with 6'3 to 6'7 height.
So you might have 6 players listed in the entire draft that you like, without being able to see skills and potential.
Then scout each of these once, and if you get any 4 or 5 ball skilled players then scout them twice.
this looks great. so after combine, do I need 3 scouting points to scout fully one player or just two SP?

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