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Power Ranking time!!

A little shakeup on the top, but nothing too drastic. What's incredible right now, though, is that 5 of the top 6 teams are in the Big 8. That will be a fun playoff battle...

Back to conference games! Amazing that the playoffs is only 4 weeks away.

POWER RANKINGS
1. Super T-Rex, 21.995
2. Natellio, 20.672
3. Chicken Hawks, 18.583
4. CA Foreigners, 14.501
5. Thunderhorse, 7.352
6. Eclypze, 6.925
7. Lumberjacks, 6.332
8. The Door Mats, 4.695
9. lakey, 4.668
10. East Gary Eagles, 2.739
11. Cow Lickers, -2.885
12. The Officials, -11.063
13. New North Star, -14.069
14. The Veggies, -18.846
15. Demon Hoosiers, -25.850
16. EBW, -35.495

Don't get it, too.

Of course, any teams play CT to a higher rank team might change the game results.
Any low salary teams who want to buy one or two 100+K players will also change some game results immediately.

In addition, as my best knowledge, a good player who can dominate in DIII might cost $600K-1M. Assuming team managers save $100K per week. You still need to wait for 3 seasons to get all the starters ready, regardless the salary increased by those trainees. And don't forget your other players are getting old and their value are also decreasing. So, does saving money really help so significantly as people expected?

I guess we should deeply appreciate those underrated teams to allow the current top teams win.

Last edited by Dino Boy at 5/1/2013 3:00:34 PM

The key when I have saved well has been to balance the young and old. Certainly, one can overspend both on signing fees and salaries at any time. Right now my non-training positions are guys who are really just meant to keep me competitive against a certain level of competition. They're good enough to hang in III, but they're relatively cheap and tend to play above their salary level. They need to be young enough that the trainees will have time to get good while they're still playing at a decent level. Once the trainees are legit starters, then it's time to buy one or two dominant players in other positions. The whole key is getting to where you produce a couple league dominant guys in house. Otherwise, it's just too expensive to sustain.

hmmmm.... that sounds a good point.

May I ask you one more question?
As a former NBBA manager who started playing BB in season 1, why you stay in DivIII and DivIV for more than ten continuous seasons? If you were training trainees, I assume they are all 28-9 yo now........(and should save $30M+ that is enough for an strong army to crash all DivII teams).

It is my opinion that it is better to get promoted to DivII (500K bonus for the promotion), and then tank there (300K/wk) for a season and relegate back to DivIII if you are willing to. You will earn more than what you tank here for three seasons.

That's all true, and I've made plenty of mistakes. For a good while I had the biggest arena in the country and enjoyed throwing around my financial weight for short term gain. It's depressing looking at how poor some of my transfer market moves were. Following that, I didn't pay much attention for several seasons. Originally I came to this division with plans of quickly promoting out. A couple seasons ago I mounted a squad for the playoffs that would have been considered good by most D2 divisions. I was over confident for a game and ended up not promoting. I try to not promote unless I have enough strength to stay up and possibly promote at the next level. These days though, D2 is so strong that it's foolhardy for me to think I could blast through 2. I don't have anything like 30M saved. I'm sitting on about 4.5 right now. That's significant but hardly unique. For many seasons I have planned on going to single position training, but haven't been very good at it, mostly because I lacked the patience. I think I'm finally there. My trainees simply weren't getting good as fast as I expected them to and never really good enough to dominate. Going up to 2 and tanking isn't a bad way to go about getting to the next step...if I could be fairly certain that I could do it without screwing it up. The teams that do it the best become dominant at just the right time, and by dominant I mean that most teams won't even bother really trying to win.

I have 640k saved up right now ;) And I'm making 157k per week You better watch out, I might make a run

Thank you for sharing your experience to us.

I use two teams as my model teams: Liberty and Power in NBBA and USA Elite in DII.4.
Liberty and Power started in season 12, had promoted from DIV to DI just in four continuous seasons and never relegated. He never stop just because of saving money or waiting for any trainees grow up.

USA Elite is famous in his super low-salary rosters (~$250K in total) to dominate in the toughest DII league.

Thus, I believe there are many ways to manage the team instead of waiting.
Also, all the BB team owners are training trainees. So I will not expect too much for having a better trainee than others.
However, I think to find good players at correct price, and how to balance your starters and reserves are more important things in this game. And I am still learning it.

One thing that happened during the seasons I wasn't paying close attention was that the game changed significantly. After about season 11 or 12, it probably wasn't until 20 or 21 before I started paying much attention again. I imagine I should look more at how some of the other teams have done it.

Indeed.

If I were you, I might be able to making 180K per week just simply adjust the ticket price. You arena is empty so you actually do not maximize your income.
Second, the minimal salary in this league is $96699 but your team salary is only $82676. It means you waste $15K salary to improve your team to win as many games as possible. To win any one more game will help you earn ~10K ticket in your case.
Third, even you decide to make a run and win the rest of the games. 8 wins will not push you to the playoffs and you will immediately lost your 157K per week so I assume there is no point you want to do this , unless you are sure that spending 640K to buy a good player or two so-so players can help you stay in the league.

It is not offence but just give you some friendly suggestion.

Last edited by Dino Boy at 5/1/2013 11:43:04 PM

Agree.
Playing BB game is just like look the war history. New tactics and management theories are developed season by season. Managers need to keep updated and knowing how to respond those tactics.

One thing you might interested is Look-Inside will not dominate as what it is now. People who build their teams as LI only might suffer a lot starting from the next season. My next cup opponent silverbacks, the #1 and current NBBA champion, already demonstrates some important thing: his team is a R&G and Motion-based team that crashes all the LI teams in NBBA. Players who have high JP or block skills will be expensive soon. All of this will push managers to build R&G, Princeton, Motion, or PTB-based teams. You might want to purchase those kinds of players now.

Liberty and Power started in season 12, had promoted from DIV to DI just in four continuous seasons and never relegated. He never stop just because of saving money or waiting for any trainees grow up.

Ooohh... If I hadn't had two guards get injured right at the playoffs in season 19 http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/11/overview.aspx?Seaso... that may have been a different story. I was the favorite that year, and had plans of shooting straight up like L&P did the next season.

Still a sore spot.

Last edited by Chekreyes at 5/2/2013 12:07:17 AM