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Damn I don't even get a write up thooo

Haha, its alright those low scoring matches are my least favorite part of this game and it should be fixed imo

It's coming.

Real life makes things interesting sometimes.

As for low scoring games, I generally don't mind them. I tend to use them (and the high scoring games) to self scout, and if necessary, course correct.

The short version: You played our brand of ball better than we did, you were more aggressive on offense than we were, and my shooters are exactly what I thought they weren't. Congratulations on the win, and I am impressed with the defense. I already know what I need to fix; thankfully I already had plans for that.

Damn I don't even get a write up thooo

Haha, its alright those low scoring matches are my least favorite part of this game and it should be fixed imo

Immediately after the 86-67 loss to The Dachshunds, the players held a players only meeting...

Joy Beko stood at the front of a dejected locker room. Walt Pasman stood with him. Carlos Frias started to come up to join them but was waved off by Pasman. Beko spoke.

“We didn’t do anything out there good enough. Those boys over there beat us at what we do. We rebounded. They were a little bit better. We defended. They were a little bit better. I’ve been here long enough to know three things: this ain’t what a championship team looks like, it ain’t what Coach Reina and the staff expect from us, and the coaches aren’t the ones who have to do better; we are. We have to pull this together. We have to work harder. Starters and the bench. I’ve been off the bench; I don’t care if I start of come off the bench. Whatever coach wants from me is fine. I know I’m not a shooter. I’m not the guy that’s going to score 20 a night. I’m not a shot blocker. I defend, I rebound, I take care of the ball. I’m gonna have to be better. Walt here, defends. Walt is not a scorer. Walt can rebound. Walt has quietly worked to make himself an outside threat. Walt puts in work to make himself better. Walt knows what Linndale basketball is, just like I do. What we do is excel where a lot of you don’t, because you excel where we don’t. That’s complementary basketball, and we need to get back to it. None of us are doing enough.”

Pasman spoke. “Frias, I know you’ve been here as long as we have, but you need to sit and listen. This is not your team anymore. PG Walt, get up here. This is your team.”

Walt Colenbranden hesitated, then walked to the front of the room.

Pasman continued. “We shoot better in practice than games. We shoot well enough to get the coaches hopes up, then we fall flat. The coaches said something last week that stuck with me. We got a bunch of guys who are supposed to be shot blockers. How come we don’t see that in games? Cafer, you and me need to get that part of our game activated. If the shot blockers need help, let’s help them. Uzek, nobody knows what you are yet, we’re going to find out. You look like a shot blocker. Vendrell, you Corro and Ozver all look like shot blockers. Corro and Ozver you look like you can defend in man situations. Start doing it. Bigs, start defending the paint and cleaning the boards. Everyone, play defense. Play Linndale defense. If you think you’re trying, you ain’t trying hard enough. PG Walt, what do you need from me on offense?”

Colenbranden took comtrol. “Frias, I didn’t come here to take your job. I’m here to help turn you into the weapon. Stop being so passive. Attack. Drive. Shoot. Leao, keep doing what you do. Uzek, we got to get you better everywhere. Simmons, we know you’re new. We don’t care. 1 shot in 15 minutes? That ain’t what you’re here for. Shoot it. Walt P., we’re going to get you attacking the rim more. Enfes, you ready to work? Score, then score some more. Bodura, they keep telling me you’re a shooter. Show me. Beko, keep doing you. G-L, bad night shooting. We get it. Go out and attack. That makes you more dangerous as a shooter. Vendrell and Ozver, I hear you got a stroke. Own the paint and we’ll get you those looks. Corro, did anyone ever tell you you were a big? Act like it. Next time we play those boys, we all better do something. Me? I gotta shoot less and pass more. I was too aggressive. If I didn’t call you out, it’s because I haven’t learned your games yet. Y’all gotta get better too. This was an embarrassment and I didn’t come here to get embarrassed.”

Outside the locker room…

“Marshall, I want the entire staff in the lab. The second we get home.” Pio was boiling.

“Yes sir.”

Earlier today in the staff meeting...

Pio Reina: Marshall, I know you have something cooked up you’ve been wanting to unleash. Spill it.

Marshall Richards: Everyone in here knows how much you hate playing zone.

PR: Can you blame me?!? Look at the guys we have in the building!!!

MR: I know. We all get it, but hear me out. Something isn’t clicking. Individually I’ll put our top defenders up against anyone and live with the results. Maybe we need to cut down on the defensive responsibilities individually and focus on the group. Right now, our 2nd group doesn’t quite have the defensive ability or rebounding as the starting group. That will change and we both know that. We just don’t know when. A wise man tells me development isn’t linear. You can’t change the groupings without consequences, and if the idea is to put our best defensive lineups put there, iwe need to think outside the box. We know we can deploy Pasman on anyone. Same for Beko. We have two guys we can deploy in the backcourt specifically to make life difficult in Frias and Colenbrander. That means our fifth defender can be Enfes or Bodura; Twaruschek isn’t there yet. Corro is an option, and lets us move Beko out the middle. I’d rather go Corro and keep Beko out the middle. I doubt there’s a center that’s taking many outside shots and on the chance someone has a perimeter threat at power forward we can play him there. I also like the versatility of him and switching responsibilities with Pasman. We are close to playing the matchup games we’d like, but we need a little bit more.

PR: We have to get it out of this group. Byron, thoughts?

Byron Helm: Ozver needs seasoning, but he could be my anchor. Vendrell is another one. Right now, Twaruschek plays like a big small forward. I’d like to see Frias get tougher inside.

Air Allnite: You move Frias inside, you’re putting a weaker perimeter defender on the floor. We’d have to play games to cover that. You’re going to lay down the law of the defensive end with this group, aren’t you?

PR: Gonna have to, unless Roberto goes out and gets us a Christmas present. What’s the one thing you want for this game Marshall wants to run?

AA: This isn’t gonna surprise you at all. Another lock down perimeter guy, one as good as or better than anyone we have.

PR: Marshall, what’s the one thing you want for this game you want to run?

MR: A Beko sized defender who can guard the perimeter like Pasman, protect the paint like Beko, and block shots at a ridiculous level. Since you’re asking, that is.

PR: Byron?

BH: An anchor. The big guy in the middle who cleans glass, protects the paint, and blocks shot with no regard for the welfare and safety of the opponent. Then can drop 25 on the other end.

PR: Have you seen the training schedule lately? I‘ve made some changes. We’re at that point.

MR: Time for the really heavy lifting now!

PR: Air, you and Marshall are going to raise the perimeter game of Vendrell and Ozver this season. Byron, you’re going to do the same for their inside work along with Twaruschek. We’ll add who needs work in those areas on a case by case basis. Make sure Pasman and Simmons get work with the bigs. Air, Simmons and Bodura are your priority. Marshall, bring it all together defensively. We want to kick things up a notch for this group. I think we've all shown restraint with the players, and for good reason. Time to really push them now. They can handle it. Leaders are starting to lead in the locker room. Let's see who takes the next step on the court.

At the half…

Jimmy Buckitts: I’m here live with Pio Reina at the end of the first half with Linndale leading the brooklyn knicks 64 to 49 here at the I 77 Speedway. Coach, the first and second quarters were vastly different. What happened?

Pio Reina: They started hot and we didn’t. We’re doing a few things we haven’t done in a while because it was time to reintroduce these things. We not trying to run with them, but the three point shot is dropping for us and we’re making free throws. The rebounding picked up after a slow start, but the defensive end and ball security is why I’m pleased right now. They put up 33 in the first and we cut that in half for the second, and we only have 3 turnovers. When we defend, take care of the ball, and rebound, good things happen and that’s what you’re seeing right now.

JB: Thanks, Coach and good luck in the second half.

PR: Thanks Jimmy.

JB: Happy, back to you guys in the studio!

Happy Ourer: Thanks Jimmy! Joshua Doe, what did you see defensively from Linndale in the first half?

Joshua Doe: Either Pio Reina has been in the lab, or he let Marshall Richards in the lab. Either way, Pio pulled a fast one on Jimmy. Brooklyn isn’t trying to run, Pio is just forcing his tempo on them. They’re using the zone to slow things and dirty things up a bit; and they’re using the numbers in the paint on the defensive end to try and keep the Knicks bigs in check. So far, it’s working. Also, keep in mind that Linndale answered a 33 point first quarter from the them by cutting Brooklyn’s offensive output in half for the second quarter while almost dropping a 40 burger. That’s how you want to answer, and we’ll see if Brooklyn has a punch to throw back. They started out throwing one, but didn’t have a plan for the two piece they got hit with in the second quarter…

After the 4th quarter…

JB: Coach, congratulations on the win.

PR: We didn’t play like we wanted to win. You can’t let your opponent shoot 40% or more from the there point line and expect to win. We have to be better than that.

JB: Walt Colenbrander had himself a night. 6 of 7 from three point land on the way to 31 points.

PR: We wanted him to be more of an offensive force. We know he can distribute, but we want him to pick his spots and if he’s feeling it, to shoot.

JB: The team looked different out there tonight. Was there something specific you did that got this win?

PR: No, not tonight. Coaches coach and players play. Give them the credit for the win. I don’t like what I saw defensively, but we won. I’m going to let them know we have a lot to tighten up on that end. Offensively, I keep saying we are not a three point shooting team, but it’s nice to have the tool in the bag if you need it. We needed it tonight.

JB: Thanks, Coach, and congratulations on the win. We’ll see you Tuesday.

PR: Thanks, Jimmy.

Good gameday for the Great 8, going 4-4 in inter-conference play. Halfway through the games now, Big 8 leads 21-11. Major improvement already from last season’s 56-8 slaughter.

Day 11 (Saturday 26 October 2024) : Performances by (https://www.buzzer-manager.com)

Night results
Anchorage Allstars. 95 - Cleveland Heat Lakers 45
brooklyn knicks 106 - Linndale 123
The Dachshunds 118 - Andersonville Alligators 88
GloryBoyz 123 - Organization XIII 132
AZ Sunburn 107 - Duke Devilz 119
Defenseless Babies 121 - Eternityz Rostah 111
Fondy Cardinals 124 - K8be4L 125
Las Vegas Red Pandas 119 - Nanooks of the North 100

Best collective performance of the evening
Points : 132 : Organization XIII
Rebounds : 71 : Anchorage Allstars.
Assists : 33 : Organization XIII
Steals : 13 : Fondy Cardinals
Block Shots : 14 : Anchorage Allstars.

Personal best performances of the evening
Points : 43 : D. Aliferovich (Fondy Cardinals)
Rebounds : 16 : D. Shilov (Anchorage Allstars.), D. Walchshofer (The Dachshunds), B. Macis (AZ Sunburn)
Assists : 14 : J. Campos (Duke Devilz)
Steals : 4 : W. Pasman (Linndale), A. Timpanaro (Duke Devilz), J. Slimani (Fondy Cardinals)
Block Shots : 4 : J. Yongyi (Anchorage Allstars.)

Top 5 of the evening
Point Guard : A. Harrani (Organization XIII) (21 Points, 11 Rebounds, 13 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 41
Shooting Guard : D. Aliferovich (Fondy Cardinals) (43 Points, 3 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 2 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 42
Small Forward : R. Landherr (K8be4L) (27 Points, 10 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 37
Power Forward : B. McAlinden (Las Vegas Red Pandas) (22 Points, 10 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 1 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 33
Center : A. Kulacs (AZ Sunburn) (20 Points, 11 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 1 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 31

MVP of the evening
D. Aliferovich (Fondy Cardinals) (43 Points, 3 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 2 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 42

The bad performance of the evening
A. Huesca (Nanooks of the North) (0 Points, 1 Rebounds, 0 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -4

Triple-Double of the evening
A. Harrani (Organization XIII) (21 Points, 11 Rebounds, 13 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots)

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens : H. Lý (K8be4L) : 8 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees : L. Greenwood (Fondy Cardinals) : 6 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man : K. Bulat (Organization XIII) : 43 Minutes

The shooter : O. Cheng Chang (Nanooks of the North) : 7 Three points

The best performer : J. Šlianderis (Organization XIII), A. Smith (Organization XIII) : Rating : 16.5

The worst performer : A. Stockton (Duke Devilz), A. Lott (Fondy Cardinals) : Rating : 4.5

Day 12 (Tuesday 29 October 2024) : Performances by (https://www.buzzer-manager.com)

Night results
Linndale 78 - Anchorage Allstars. 95
Andersonville Alligators 122 - brooklyn knicks 117
Organization XIII 111 - The Dachshunds 81
Duke Devilz 92 - GloryBoyz 139
Eternityz Rostah 126 - AZ Sunburn 119
K8be4L 69 - Defenseless Babies 134
Nanooks of the North 121 - Fondy Cardinals 129
Cleveland Heat Lakers 70 - Las Vegas Red Pandas 125

Best collective performance of the evening
Points : 139 : GloryBoyz
Rebounds : 76 : GloryBoyz
Assists : 40 : Las Vegas Red Pandas
Steals : 13 : Defenseless Babies
Block Shots : 9 : Fondy Cardinals

Personal best performances of the evening
Points : 46 : A. Kühn-Rechenmacher (brooklyn knicks)
Rebounds : 19 : D. Shilov (Anchorage Allstars.), S. Riaz (GloryBoyz)
Assists : 14 : T. Mizoguchi (Eternityz Rostah)
Steals : 4 : W. Pasman (Linndale)
Block Shots : 4 : W. Lemons (Andersonville Alligators), J. Jude (Fondy Cardinals)

Top 5 of the evening
Point Guard : J. Imbroda (AZ Sunburn) (32 Points, 3 Rebounds, 8 Assists, 1 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 38
Shooting Guard : A. Kühn-Rechenmacher (brooklyn knicks) (46 Points, 0 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 39
Small Forward : K. Peeters (Eternityz Rostah) (35 Points, 6 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 1 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 38
Power Forward : L. Greenwood (Fondy Cardinals) (28 Points, 16 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 1 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 41
Center : D. Shilov (Anchorage Allstars.) (6 Points, 19 Rebounds, 10 Assists, 3 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 35

MVP of the evening
L. Greenwood (Fondy Cardinals) (28 Points, 16 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 1 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 41

The bad performance of the evening
H. Lý (K8be4L) (8 Points, 0 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -6

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens : A. Timpanaro (Duke Devilz) : 5 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees : K. Telén (Andersonville Alligators), E. Delgado (K8be4L), A. Stadnichenko (Nanooks of the North), J. Slimani (Fondy Cardinals) : 6 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man : T. Dvéri (Andersonville Alligators) : 48 Minutes

The shooter : A. Kühn-Rechenmacher (brooklyn knicks) : 8 Three points

The best performer : A. Di Massimo (GloryBoyz) : Rating : 17.0

The worst performer : E. Pollard (The Dachshunds) : Rating : 2.0

Pio Reina: Air, I want your assessment of Simmons.

Air Allnite: He’s a shooter, plain and simple. His scoring ability will grow if he can improve his inside game and free throw shooting. We usually get guys a little bit younger. We got him for a specific role, didn’t we?

PR: We’ll get to that. Continue, please.

AA: Offensively, he is talented, but a bit raw. His ball skills aren’t where we want. Neither is his defense. He’s not a black hole, but he’s not a good passer. Defensively, his best tool is his shooting. He’s passable on defense. He’s a good rebounder, which makes me think we can unlock his inside game offensively and maybe even on defense. To be clear, his offense is his draw. He could be the scorer off the bench, we’ve wanted.

PR: Marshall, can we make this kid playable at small forward or no?

Marshall Richards: That’s possible. Depends on how fast he improves inside. I think we should worry more about his ball skills and defense first. Get him up to speed at his position before we go adding responsibilities to him. This kid is a weapon. The versatility can come later. Get him up to speed first.

PR: What does his defense training group look like?

MR: Aside from the typical guard stuff we run? I say Ozver, Corro, Simmons, Uzek, Twaruschek, and Bodura if we can get all six in.

PR: Expect to run that after the break. Air, what does a Simmons training class look like for the guard camp?

AA: Simmons, Pasman, Uzek, Bodura, primarily. The class changes depending on what the goal is. If Marshall has defense, I’ll assume you want ball skills and offense. You could have Enfes, Frias, or Beko. The different skills make it case by case.

Byron Helm: I need to get Ozver in the big man camp with Vendrell, Twaruschek, Enfes, Pasman and Simmons. Ideally, I’d get Uzek and Frias.

AA: You just like beating up on my guards.

BH: I see three guards who can work inside. One is six feet 5, another is 6 feet 9, and the other is 6 feet 10. What’s the purpose of a big guard if you can’t exploit that kind of natural advantage when the opportunity presents itself?

PR: Marshall, Byron is right. I want to get him up to speed and see if we can use him at 2 positions.
Alternate bigs and guards with Simmons getting attention for the forseeable future.

Renato Corro: (walks into Pio’s office) Coach, you wanted to see me?

PR: I don’t have to tell you how bad that performance was, do I? You got outrebounded by a guard 19 to 12. There is no excuse for that. That’s not something we can tolerate here. That kind of performance is how you lose starting jobs. Son, you just lost yours. You have to play better. No ands, ifs, or buts about it.

BH: You’re good at what you do, but you’re going to have to be better. We’ll get you there. We’ll also get you better at what you’re not good at. You can either learn and improve, or run yourself out of here. We want you to succeed. What’s it gonna be?

RC: So I’m running the bench bunch with Leao?

BH: With a defined role you should excel in. And a path to reclaim the starting job, but we won’t make it easy for you.

RC: I’m starting before the playoffs. I’m too good to bench. In the meantime, I’ll get even better, and take control of the bench.

PR: Don’t tell me. Show me.

Day 13 (Saturday 2 November 2024) : Performances by (https://www.buzzer-manager.com)

Night results
Anchorage Allstars. 120 - Andersonville Alligators 102
brooklyn knicks 117 - Organization XIII 127
The Dachshunds 123 - Duke Devilz 85
GloryBoyz 110 - Eternityz Rostah 111
AZ Sunburn 138 - K8be4L 122
Defenseless Babies 130 - Nanooks of the North 110
Fondy Cardinals 128 - Cleveland Heat Lakers 123
Las Vegas Red Pandas 93 - Linndale 86

Best collective performance of the evening
Points : 138 : AZ Sunburn
Rebounds : 55 : The Dachshunds
Assists : 38 : K8be4L
Steals : 14 : Fondy Cardinals
Block Shots : 9 : GloryBoyz, Fondy Cardinals

Personal best performances of the evening
Points : 38 : H. Lý (K8be4L)
Rebounds : 17 : B. Macis (AZ Sunburn)
Assists : 16 : R. Motti (K8be4L)
Steals : 4 : G. Purcell (Eternityz Rostah), D. Aliferovich (Fondy Cardinals)
Block Shots : 6 : L. Greenwood (Fondy Cardinals)

Top 5 of the evening
Point Guard : Y. Kaifang (Nanooks of the North) (33 Points, 8 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 2 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 35
Shooting Guard : F. Di Matteo (AZ Sunburn) (30 Points, 3 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 2 Steals, 0 Block Shots), H. Lý (K8be4L) (38 Points, 5 Rebounds, 1 Assists, 2 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 31
Small Forward : K. Lay (Cleveland Heat Lakers) (27 Points, 10 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 2 Steals, 2 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 35
Power Forward : L. Greenwood (Fondy Cardinals) (20 Points, 11 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 2 Steals, 6 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 37
Center : W. Lemons (Andersonville Alligators) (29 Points, 14 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 43

MVP of the evening
W. Lemons (Andersonville Alligators) (29 Points, 14 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 43

The bad performance of the evening
J. Collante (Andersonville Alligators) (0 Points, 2 Rebounds, 0 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -7

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens : A. Kühn-Rechenmacher (brooklyn knicks) : 6 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees : A. Kühn-Rechenmacher (brooklyn knicks) : 6 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man : M. Álvarez (Eternityz Rostah), M. Gatard (Nanooks of the North) : 44 Minutes

The shooter : R. Lian (Duke Devilz), H. Lý (K8be4L) : 7 Three points

The best performer : L. Salisbury (Cleveland Heat Lakers) : Rating : 17.0

The worst performer : A. Stockton (Duke Devilz) : Rating : 4.5

We join the Linndale post game press conference already in progress…

Pio Reina: Look, I know you guys want me to say that we’ve got a good bunch of shooters, or that we’re better than we’ve shown, or we’re just in a slump. Fact is, I’ve been telling anyone who will listen that we’re not the shooters you think we are. Not yet. Can we be? Yes. Are we there yet? No. One day, I’ll tell you something and you guys will believe me.

Sam Dunkley: Pio, the inside game seems to be both a source of strength and irritation. What’s going on, and how do you fix that?

PR: Sam, we know what we’re going to get from Joy Beko. What we’re trying to do is get the others in that group to where we know what we can get from them night in and night out. That may mean we have to work on individual skills and get those reinforced. I suspect you’re seeing some of that in games, but you’re also downplaying the quality of the opponents we’ve faced. Are we getting what we thought from Renato Corro? No. Maybe we expected a bit much, maybe he’s underperforming. The main thing is he is a contributor, so we may have to adjust roles from time to time. Rafet Ozver is a guy who’s best basketball is in front of him, but he needs refining. Gian-Luca started off a house on fire. He’s got some things to refine, but also, we’ll see his role change some. Pere Vendrell is another guy. These guys are all talented and the skills they have vary from one to another, as do the weaknesses. Just like the players have to be better, we as a coaching staff have to be better about getting the guys into a role where they can be successful.

Jimmy Buckitts: Coach, I want to go back to the game for a moment. How important is the outside game to the success of the team? It feels like when the team makes a lot of threes, you win, and if you don’t, you don’t. Tonight you were 6 of 29 in the loss.

PR: Jimmy, we lost by 7. You know what else happened? We missed 7 free throws. We turned the ball over 13 times. We missed 53 shots tonight. Which of those things caused us to lose the game? Can you pick one, or was it all of them in combination? Was it the 37 point first quarter we gave up? I’d start there. Everything snowballed from there. Look, we’ve always been defense first. Defense and rebounding has always been what we hang our hats on. What happened the rest of the game? As the game went on Las Vegas had a tougher time scoring. We won the battle of the boards, but Las Vegas did the thing they needed to do. We made it tough on them to score, they made it tougher on us. Both teams had a 17 point advantage in a quarter. We cannot win games if we’re going to follow an 18 point quarter with a 14 point quarter. Give Las Vegas their due.

Brick Jones: Brick Jones, Hoops Weekly. Coach, who does the team need a big second half from to get where you want to be?

PR: Cafer Enfes, Carlos Frias, and Roman Bodura. We need Cafer to be more aggressive on offense, we need Carlos to be better at picking his spots and toning his aggressiveness down a bit, and we need Roman to find his stroke. Those three open up so much of our attack when they’re playing well. We need to get at least 2 of them playing well at the same time. If we do that, we’ll take our chances. All 3 at the same time? Someone is going to be hard pressed to win. We just haven’t cracked that code to do that yet.

Kevin Villem: That's all the time we have. Coach Reina has other duties to attend to. Thank you for coming and we'll see you at the next game!