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You missed my point by a long mile.

Its not the point sales are being make everyday its the point 40$ is not attractive everyday for everyone.. some people have budgets and you have reach their budgets. Its not about BB being free. its about making those free supporter one day.. bringing that free player to supporter revenue thus keep them staying coming back.

Keep players renewing/ playing, in small creating profits.?


Are You against making a profits? are you versus BB having discounts sales. Are you versus BB turning free players to supporters?? If not, what's the point of your rebuttal?? Like it or not BB is a business venture for revenue,what goes on in BB does not happens for free. Its a free game but its not free to operate// let me make that part clear.

I can play for free all day long at Bb expense but if bb is smart they should try to get me to support some how.( ring bells) Sale/discount open people wallets, it gets people to talking to other to join during in those times , its get people to joining. It get people to supporting, spreading the word people like value an saving . A managers may not have 40$ at the time or all the time ,but they may have 20$ and BB has a discount sale,he can support.( rings bell)

By them doing that things get fixed much quicker( making revenue). Understand the concept.. Just like when they had 50K users, they got things fixed . remember r&g. motion etc etc.?? They fix those things when the money was rolling in more faster> That my point?

Your problem with that is what? If want I pay them/support them and they create fixes.. why the issues.. I'll play for free if it broken.. Again where are my saving?

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 12/13/2014 10:40:28 PM

Alot of what you say depends on marketing. What bb owners do out side BB for work is a non the factor in this.

Ads works both ways. You don't need a app to do that. you need facebook , twitter. twitch tv .. differ social aspects( avenue) to broaden the appeal . BB is a brand, its make money regardless of what the owners do for a actual living. Again it BB is made to make money, because it take money to run. beinf free is go way to bring folks in.

No sale is gaurenteed profit, but a discount sale is a way to attain differ budgets to affords to create sales.. If things are in decline you need to adjust your budget to afford lower the price point in a sale. It already proven alot want to support with 2nd team sales.

How many comes in depends on BB audience its trying to reach. NO one can predict that . same for the 20 k here already. People are going to leave all the time. just like any store. but you want them to buy something, How many buys depends on price point an what your offering . How you present it.

If we all talk to our friends then we'd get quite a few more users.
I think it would be a big boost.

Sorry it is just a ant job; this is the game's developper job.
They are responible of the weak amount of managers, how India has about 30 managers out of more than 1 billion people, no championship in Bengladesh, look at the bigger countries in the world look at the number of managers the potential is here, we are talking about countries over 100 million preople
Indonesia 1.2billion, 68 coaches. Brazil (basketball country) 346 users for 200 million, Pakistan 0 for 200 million, Nigeria 11 for 200 million....aso you can check every big country outside Europe the ratio is ridiculous
..this game is centered on Europe and the US, work on Asia and Africa you will easily double the population here (i think maybe triple). The game go boring as the market is rotten these times.

Last edited by Tom2vals at 12/15/2014 6:14:30 AM

1300 Utopia teams equal $65.000.

I don't make that type of money and I guess that running the site does not cost more than that. So basically Utopia was a quick cash grab, nothing more nothing less. Tweaking some numbers in an existing code cannot be that expensive.

I insist in saying the game is badly marketed outside Europe, check this (http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users/)

I talked in a previous posts about the weak amount of manager from big "developing countries", i talked about the population of these countries, it is more fair to compare with national internet connection stats.

The problem is still the same:
China 872 users for 641 Million Internet connexion...too weak
India 17 for 243 Million...ridiculous
Brasil 347 for 107 MI
Nigeria 11 for 67 MI IC....

except India,in all these countries basketball is a major sport, feel free to compare number of user and number of connection by country (Egypt, Vietnam, Bengladesh,Pakistan) without talking of mobile phone connections