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I would like to recommend LA-Wolph's work to anyone who is interested. he did a fabulous job of this season for me, and he still hasnt realised that i paid him with monopoly money.

So i highly recommend his work.

Again, that's not true. Scouting his boxscores on a different league is not that different from scouting on your own. You have stuff that won't change much, like FT% or game rating, and checking his opponent in a different league is just like checking who he was playing in your league... It's not like the teams in your league are all the same.

I've already gave an example - Adam Morisson. Is there any relation between his abillities in the UNCA and the NBA? No there are none.
Except of the free-throws, which is one of the less important skills, if not the least significant.

And slow it down with the "real world" argument. I agree that there should be a deadline for playoff transfers further away from the end of the regular season, but in real life this episode of your opponent having a new player you haven't heard of before is not unimaginable. Lots of teams buy players and insert them straight into the lineup for the next game. In the NBA you can argue that there are few players good enough to play there that teams wouldn't have heard of before, but you're in an israeli div III league, so there are hundreds of guys who could play there.

This is absurd. When and which player had been bought at any league just before playoff (or even at the middle of the year) which was the most expensive at that team?
Even if you will find a rare case, it is just that.
It is far from current status on BB, where it is being exploited regulary.

Take soccer (football), for instance. If Man U or Liverpool buys a new player to put him in the starting lineup, he's likely to be a top caliber, international player. In that sense, there should be plenty of info to scout him on. That in general may apply here. If a team in a top division buys a 200k center, he's likely to come from a good team in a good league, so his boxscores there will be meaningful. On the other hand, if Tranmere Rovers gets a new kid from El Salvador, chances are nobody else ever heard of him before. In this analogy, the Venomous Scorpions can be Man U, you are Tranmere Roveres (no offense to them)

Give a name of a player that had been bought by those teams and had been the most expensive player (and by far) on their roster.
Again, even if you will find a case, it will be a very rare case (unlike current status at BB-game).

It is far from current status on BB, where it is being exploited regulary.

Could you please add some statistics to this claim. How many teams (% of all teams in BB) add the highest salary player to their roster just before playoffs. No speculations, hard facts with possibility of linking info to prove it.

With regards to your point 1)
In real life, this actually happens. Lets say, Perth Wildcats, hire a new college player from the USA to come down to the NBL (Australian national league) and play for them. NOBODY in the NBL will know about this player, and there is no way for the opposition to find out, until they see him player against other teams.

A) Does this player is the most expansive in that team? How rare is it?
B) In addition, it does not happen near playoff.

their best information is going to be from box scores from games he played in the USA and then from watching him play in the NBL.... This is the way BuzzerBeater currently works, and im happy with it.

Again, it is not exactly the case.
You cannot get information valid for your league until he will play at your league...
At different leagues, players will be playing differently.

But then it takes away from some of the game as well...

This is a tradeof. But those who will use it will have less money to invest on their team. I find it an advantage.

Keep tihs idea simple though. Maybe refine this idea such that
'A player may use one of their draft scouting points per week, to scout an opposition players skill level in one skill only (which may or may not be random)'.
What u think?

Basically this is what I've wrote. Except that I'm not sure whether the scouting points for this should be shared with the draft scouting points.

Yep i agree with that.
From a personal perspective, i dont know why you would want to scout outside your own league, but obviously from a national team/cup perspective, this has implications.
Thinking about this now though, i dont know how collusion between players would be prevented.
Manager X and Manager Y scout opposition Manager Z's best player. Then mail each other the respective results.
I guess this is why during the draft, everyone is "player 1, player 2" and everyone else has a different P1, p2 etc.
So yer hmmmmmm. a solution to that would be needed. Else a different way of looking at it.

There are automated SW to go over real Emails. I guess it can be work here as well.

Another thing to ask is why is collaboration between several teams is a bad thing?
In case a team does not want to share information, so good for her.

Think also when will it happen that teams will collaborate against another team - when that team is that strong comparing to the others, so they are looking for ways to overcome that team together.
Again, sounds reasonabel for me...

It is far from current status on BB, where it is being exploited regulary.

Could you please add some statistics to this claim. How many teams (% of all teams in BB) add the highest salary player to their roster just before playoffs. No speculations, hard facts with possibility of linking info to prove it.

1) It is a no brainer to claim that, when it is such a great option to exploit.

2) Each team that was against those kind of suggestions and I looked at her transfer list have shown "clues" why they where against it.
I still haven't look at your transfers..

Think also when will it happen that teams will collaborate against another team - when that team is that strong comparing to the others, so they are looking for ways to overcome that team together.
Again, sounds reasonabel for me...

This is a big nono. Deliberately loosing to the collaborator team while tieing (with a large margin) and then crunching the team to overcome, just help the collaborating team to win the title. Thus destroying your own team chances to succeed is normal?

1) It is a no brainer to claim that, when it is such a great option to exploit.

It's not a no brainer, add stats to prove it.

2) Each team that was against those kind of suggestions and I looked at her transfer list have shown "clues" why they where against it.
I still haven't look at your transfers..

Please go take a look at my transfers. You should remember my post about average teams average transfers per month. It seems you are not the sharpest tool in the box.

Think also when will it happen that teams will collaborate against another team - when that team is that strong comparing to the others, so they are looking for ways to overcome that team together.
Again, sounds reasonabel for me...

This is a big nono. Deliberately loosing to the collaborator team while tieing (with a large margin) and then crunching the team to overcome, just help the collaborating team to win the title. Thus destroying your own team chances to succeed is normal?

This has nothing to do with current suggestion, and just implying that there ways to collaborate (against another team) also under current state of the game.

Should it be prevented? I'm not 100% sure.
It means that the stronger teams will need to try harder, and the weaker teams have ways to narrow the difference between them.

This game is about being the best team. It's not about helping someone else to the best team spot. It's not about 2 (3,4,5,6 etc) vs 1.

Collaberation between teams is a bad thing - why?
Let me put it this way. Sometimes in my league teams will 'collaberate' in a friendly manner, such that they might TIE a game against each other such that they have better enthusiasm when they play me. Which is fine. ***

However if i was in a league, where, teams collaberated specifically to bring my downfall, i would quit the game. Simple as that. There is nothing worse than bullying, and collaberation between teams against another one on a grand scale, is online bullying, and it is the work of cowards and people who have mummy issues. This is why collaboration between teams is a bad thing. its a bad bad thing for the game. The more collaboration in this game, the quicker it will die. The game will be left with teams who only collaberate, no new users will stick with the game, and essentially, you will be left to play with yourself.

So if this suggestion can be worked to completely remove any collaberation, then it will be a good suggestion.

Edit: *** PS: Im not accusing people from my league of cheating! We have a great league, and the friendly 'im gonna tie you this week' emails that i get when in fact you are actually going to CT me, is all part of the fun. No accusations meant with my comment above. I love you's alls!



Last edited by Coach Regan at 11/1/2011 9:48:18 PM