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From: yeppers

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Date: 2/6/2013 11:32:32 AM
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Just because I haven't won yet doesn't mean I don't know how to win, or am incapable of winning.

Im not saying every D.V/D.IV is going to give you great advice. Im just saying that you should judge your opinions on the substance of what people tell you, and not the level they are playing in.

From: Tangosz

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Date: 2/6/2013 11:39:10 AM
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well, two of hrudey's trainees were sold for $450K; one was purchased for 55K, the other for 10K.

So, call it 850K net on just those two guys.

If he trained those guys for 4 seasons, and the average trainer cost was 20K, that's 1.12 million for the trainer.

That leaves him down just 270K, meaning whatever other players who got trained in that time period only have to be worth that much to break even on trainer cost. I'd guess that Menard and Wray (who were contemporaneously trained) would likely sell for similar amounts at Newton and Tuozzi. If so, his training program created 4*425K - 1.12 = 580K.

Now, that's not to say that training is a way to make huge amounts of money. You have to train well and create well built players. But you have to do that whether you train high potential, pricey trainees, or cheaper low potential trainees. And yes, there will be times you put out a substandard lineup, and lose some games you could have won. But as hrudey points out, there's also the fact that as the season progresses, your trainees perform better than the salary you pay them.

In the end, your assertion about the TL worth of well-trained, low potential players was wrong a couple of seasons ago when we had this exact same discussion, and is even more wrong now, given the rise in the market (following the change in free agent criteria).

From: yeppers

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Date: 2/6/2013 11:45:26 AM
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I never claimed to have it all figured out. Maybe using myself as an example was a mistake.

My point was that I dont think condemning all advice from lower level guys, and accepting all advice from NT/U21 coaches is a good way of going about things. You and I may have differing opinions. Doesnt make your opinion right merely because youve been around longer than I have. Like you said, any advice should be taken with a grain of salt, regardless of where it comes from. Thats all :)

Last edited by yeppers at 2/6/2013 11:47:34 AM