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From: Marot

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164600.459 in reply to 164600.456
Date: 4/8/2011 9:15:20 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
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There is actually an imbalance in the game engine.

3-2 works much better for an inside team than 2-3 does with outside teams(and then this ones normally have to play m2m), it's easy to check it.

In other works, a great inside defender or outside defender can be outscored from another top scorer in m2m, but when the inside team plays a 3-2 the situation changes a lot while the 2-3 won't help on ID, just a little bonus on rebound and will lose OD...

Just check Pacers game, with m2m i bet he was going to win that game, the 2-3 dind't really help him.

Also it's really hard for outside teams to beat the HCA during the B3(first rounds ofc) against a good OD, scoring from the 3pt line it's so hard.

I don't know exactly how the box works yet, but i don't expect this situation changes in the future, unless there's a good tactical change which i don't expect.

Last edited by Marot at 4/8/2011 9:16:31 AM

From: rwystyrk

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164600.461 in reply to 164600.459
Date: 4/8/2011 11:22:25 AM
BC Hostivař
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
11871187
Second Team:
Jirkov
Just check Pacers game, with m2m i bet he was going to win that game, the 2-3 dind't really help him.

In general I'm not fan of 2-3 zone, but with man to man he would lost much more in this case.
1) with 2-3 zone there were significant decrease in number of shots of my PF/C, with M2M his bigmen would have been probably fouled out before the start of the last quarter as they tend to foul very much
2) he would have had much trouble with my guards layups, but he would have less trouble with SG jump shots
3) with the same lineup he would be destoyed by jump shots of my SF
4) with different lineup he would loose much more on rebounds and also he would lost some power on attack

From: rwystyrk

To: Coco
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164600.464 in reply to 164600.463
Date: 4/9/2011 1:28:09 PM
BC Hostivař
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
11871187
Second Team:
Jirkov
Do you mean both cup and league runners up in that case?

From: rwystyrk

To: Coco
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164600.466 in reply to 164600.463
Date: 4/9/2011 1:54:30 PM
BC Hostivař
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
11871187
Second Team:
Jirkov
Still, since there was no response at the time and no official explanation, I hope that Flumpaci wins, because Hostivar would be in my eyes a winner with no legitimacy.

But with this explanation, no wild card will ever have legitimacy. They should introduce system which would work for odd number of pariticipant so that wild card is not needed.
I think it was right of BB-staff to give some wild card. I would have accepted solution with another team received wild card as well.
Isn't it just about your wish to be eliminated by winner not just by runners-up?

From: docend24

To: Coco
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164600.468 in reply to 164600.467
Date: 4/9/2011 3:38:32 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
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So is it his fault it wasn't discussed? If so what he should have done? Make sure it would be discussed? But he was the only one raising the point "what if...".

Then again he is blamed for discussing it as he was allegedly "begging" to get that wild card. Poor boy he couldn't do anything.

BBs are blamed for not stating how this would be solved. Then again if they'd did so some would be more than happy to blame rw that he knew it (50%ly but still) in advance and could prepare by tanking rest of the season (which for the record was not the case) and thus getting some kind of imaginary advantage. Either way he would be attacked for daring to succeced this way.

Don't shoot the pianist, he's doing the best he can. You (all, not just you) are furious because the wild card can actually win it. What would be the point of it if the wild card team could nto win it all? BBs could chose some random team like defunct previous winner which would be sure to go 0-8 in the group stage but qui bono, what would be the purpose. The only legitimate argument I see is someone saying "I checked czech gfinal and tournament and I didn't expected Hostivař in the B3 thus I didn't prepare my roster to face him, otherwise I would do things a bit differently." Funny, nobody said that.

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