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251520.460 in reply to 251520.455
Date: 7/7/2017 10:42:09 AM
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I agree that my opponent has better players as it can be seen from salaries and end-game ratings but how come I have around 30 more average points per 100 offensive possessions? I think I got the edge. I'm not asking this to criticise your points but as an inexperienced coach, I wonder.


Because PP100 are an interesting but utterly useless rating. I've lost count of the times where a SG with 90+ PP100 would put up a 3-17 (1-8) type performance. The amount of streakiness that seems to be on display, especially for outside shooting, simply doesn't have enough of a sample size in most games to consistently approach what is calculated if 100 shots were being taken. I fortunately have a poster child game for this too, a finals game where I ran patient with my best outside shooter at C against a friend of mine who I knew played Man to Man consistently, and whose center was a superb player but had horrible OD. (69079208)

Look at the box score and you see the C position (which he played 48 min at) was expected to put up 96.6 PP100. Look in the viewer, fast forward to the 36 minute mark and check out the stats, and he was 0-11, 0-2 from three, for zero points. The point there is not that I lost - I expected to lose and this was a halfcourt heave to try to steal the win because straight up my opponent was much better - but 0-11 on 96PP100 means either the PP100 stat was flawed or his shooting was flawed, and knowing his skills and the opposing center's skills, I'd expect a 10-11 ten times before an 0-11.

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251520.461 in reply to 251520.460
Date: 7/8/2017 2:23:55 PM
LZS Niemyslowice
IV.6
Overall Posts Rated:
11161116
Second Team:
Wellingborough Town F.C.
(97313878) :?

131 vs 150 bb stat - this guy on SF - Szlaski with 20% scored has ss10=140 if somebady want say he is weak ...

Last edited by toshii at 7/8/2017 3:38:56 PM

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251520.462 in reply to 251520.461
Date: 7/10/2017 12:41:10 PM
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131 vs 150 bb stat - this guy on SF - Szlaski with 20% scored has ss10=140 if somebady want say he is weak ...


Beats me, but of course I'm still trying to figure out how I got a combined 6-37 (2-16) from the SG/SF positions (and excluding two garbage time threes in the last 1:24, it would be 4-35 (0-14). (96943305)

[edit: This might be the wrong thread, though. I deserved to lose something like 90-75, with a lot more turnovers, but if a 1-3-1 with home court can't get a team OD equal to my outside scoring, they shouldn't hold my team to that low percentage. ]

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 7/10/2017 12:42:41 PM

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251520.463 in reply to 251520.435
Date: 7/29/2017 10:09:30 AM
HAHA001
IBL
Overall Posts Rated:
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(97263842)

How come my SG sucks in this game? FG 2/15, -15 in +/-.

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251520.465 in reply to 251520.464
Date: 7/29/2017 9:17:08 PM
HAHA001
IBL
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454454
yup, the passing skill of my players was pretty low:
PG18, SG4, SF2, PF1, C7

Low post requires good passing skill, so i should use look inside to win this game, is it right...

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251520.466 in reply to 251520.465
Date: 7/29/2017 9:26:56 PM
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It would be right to get players with better passing.
Tough to win in any tactic with those numbers from three of your five.

From: GM-hrudey

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251520.467 in reply to 251520.465
Date: 7/29/2017 9:52:07 PM
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yup, the passing skill of my players was pretty low:
PG18, SG4, SF2, PF1, C7

Low post requires good passing skill, so i should use look inside to win this game, is it right...


If you're going to have thee starters whose passing sum up to seven, you should probably have players who can shoot well from midcourt, and then hope you can get it that close.

With pasing at that level, LI might not be much better. In low post, they'll try to find someone down low to pass it to, and then if they don't find a good shot, they'll keep looking until they jack up whatever shot they can. In LI, they'll probably do the same thing, except the threshold for 'good shot' is lower. You may get more drives, but if you can't pass the ball down low, you can't pass it down low in any offense.

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251520.468 in reply to 251520.467
Date: 7/31/2017 6:38:19 AM
Kelmis Spartans
BBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
143143
Second Team:
Eupen Scythe
Hello everyone,

I'm paying my first visit here, as I really don't understand how I managed to lose this one. I should have won by a comfortable margin, and the opponent had 2 players injured, forcing him to play with a 4 k SF for 38 minutes.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/97113103/boxscore.aspx

I can't help but think I got seriously screwed on this one, but maybe I overlooked something that you might point out.

Any idea ? Thank you in advance !

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251520.469 in reply to 251520.468
Date: 7/31/2017 11:32:14 AM
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Hello everyone,

I'm paying my first visit here, as I really don't understand how I managed to lose this one. I should have won by a comfortable margin, and the opponent had 2 players injured, forcing him to play with a 4 k SF for 38 minutes.

(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/97113103/boxscore.aspx)

I can't help but think I got seriously screwed on this one, but maybe I overlooked something that you might point out.

Any idea ? Thank you in advance !


Sometimes you're the hammer, sometimes you're the nail. This time, you're the board and you got screwed. Hopefully you get some equally low-probability event in life working out in your favor in the near future to balance things out.

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251520.470 in reply to 251520.469
Date: 7/31/2017 12:11:40 PM
Kelmis Spartans
BBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
143143
Second Team:
Eupen Scythe
OK, thanks for your opinion. I thought I might have missed something here, but it's just plain bad luck. Too bad :/

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