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NEWs, 5th place fixed?

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232098.47 in reply to 232098.35
Date: 12/4/2012 11:41:51 AM
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From what I'm reading here, people just want more money. Big teams who usually finish 1st are defending their bread saying this is the end of BB. If you think 4th is a better way to win a league, well finish 4th and let's see.

People just want more money? No mate, people want just it was during 21 seasons before this one.
You are happy when you get less money?
Maybe you don't understand us because your biggest success is winning 2nd League? Then you got money for promotion, and what happen when some of us in 1st League win it, we all got a big 0.
Some users change the game it the way they like it, about the good managers no one cares.

You know what is the new award when you're good during the season and finish 1st? BB took from your 4 games 17% of money.
Long live the Cup (Tournament).


How dare BB forget all those good managers no one cares about.

All the rest of us puny, insignificant players should just shut up and kneel before King_Leonidas.

By the way, since I have never won D.I could you please enlighten us with your allknowingness. Dont you get a nice attendance boost the next season if you are DI. winner?

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232098.48 in reply to 232098.47
Date: 12/4/2012 12:03:48 PM
Spartan 300
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Dont you get a nice attendance boost the next season if you are DI. winner?

No.

Forum is here to discuss, so I feel free and tell my opinion about the new changes. Someone seems to have a problem with that.

This is where we hold them!
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232098.50 in reply to 232098.49
Date: 12/4/2012 12:48:50 PM
Spartan 300
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Far from that that I will be 1st every season. My point at this story is next.
I don't like when BB punish someone who is 1st in every League, not just i I League. Clubs on 1st place in II, III... division have now less money that before, that's all.
One question, where have you seen that a club play on an opponent arena (stadium) and get half of the money from tickets, I didn't see that nowhere, did you?

I like to discuss about those things, I don't see something bad in this, just want to hear some other opinions.

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232098.51 in reply to 232098.48
Date: 12/4/2012 12:50:12 PM
Nitra Corgons
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Dont you get a nice attendance boost the next season if you are DI. winner?

No.
actualy, you can earn more money as title holder than finalist. When 2nd i couldnt go over cca 605k-610k. When 1st i could reach 620k+.

1 BBB, 20 Leagues, 10 Tournaments, 3 Europe Titles (SVK), 2 World Bronzes (SVK), 2 Europe Bronzes (SVK,FRA), 42 Seasons NT coaching
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232098.52 in reply to 232098.51
Date: 12/4/2012 1:16:23 PM
Spartan 300
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Its not a big difference in my case, some thousand $. It depends on your Fan Survey.

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232098.53 in reply to 232098.52
Date: 12/4/2012 3:04:27 PM
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Im ok with this change.

In my country a lot of times, the winner of season X, in season X+1 win again. And won also cups.

Two times C.S Larrañaga won 6 consectuvies trophies. This team after all get bored of winning all and abandon the game

One time Aprendices insuficientes won 4 consecutives trophies. This team after this row, get bored and abandon the game

In this moment its happening again. The last winner ( Tavolara) its on a 3 trophies row, will he continue this line? All seems that YES.

So punishing a little the first position in my country, seems to be a good new.

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232098.54 in reply to 232098.35
Date: 12/4/2012 6:11:46 PM
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You know what is the new award when you're good during the season and finish 1st? BB took from your 4 games 17% of money.

It isn't right. It's only 10% per one game for team with HCA in every round, which plays 5 matches in PO.

Before change:
1st in RS:
2/3 + 2/3 + 2/3 + 1/3 + 2/3 = 3,00 x full incomes

4th in RS:
1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 + 2/3 + 1/3 = 2,00 x full incomes

After change:
All teams: 5x 1/2 = 2,50 x full incomes

So You lost only 0,5 of full income, it's 0,5 x 650k = 325k overall and only 65k per match.
Please note that You can gain more in B3.
And please note, that previous system was very unfair for teams, which finished 3-4 in league. It was painfull for low ranked teams if they tried to win play-offs, so very often they tanked in PO. Now economical situation in play-offs is the same for every team (and it's fair, there is nothing wrong with equal incomes), however high ranked teams still have tactical advantage (HCA). Play-offs will be more interesting.

Then you got money for promotion, and what happen when some of us in 1st League win it, we all got a big 0.

But You win title. It's goal for all other teams, not money.
And after winning of title Your fans are happier in next season so You can gain more money from tickets.
You still have advantage in comparition to other teams in league. And please note, that promotion bonus is created to help new teams to fight in higher league with better opponents. If You win title You still play in the same league, so promotion bonus isn't needed.

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232098.55 in reply to 232098.38
Date: 12/4/2012 6:20:06 PM
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So won't we now be seeing teams happier to place 6th & 7th than 5th,

I don't think so. In competitive league you can be relegated. Then Your incomes in next season will decrease by 40%. In fact relegation series very often are more interesting than play-offs ;-) I saw many times situation when salaries of teams, which fight in relegation are two times higher than salaries of teams which fight for title ;-) Because defeat in relegation is moooooooooooore painful for club than defeat in finals.

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232098.57 in reply to 232098.56
Date: 12/4/2012 6:44:20 PM
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Thanks for that summary.

Coming back to a point I raised before - from a sportsmanship and excitement point of view, it might be better to remove income from the Sunday Night decision game. Plenty teams simply tank game 2 go get the extra money (for free, if the team is high oods favourite). Mind sharing a thought abuot this?

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