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100172.49 in reply to 100172.48
Date: 7/22/2009 9:13:52 PM
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My problem with the current bidding system is that the player's owner can run up the price if he doesn't like the bidding.

That shouldn't be allowed. The starting price is the price you should be comfortable losing the player for. So the current owner of a player shouldn't be able to bid in order to make the price go up.

I got in this situation lately and lost a player because the owner didn't "like" the price I was about to get the player for. Chatting with him, he laughed saying he wouldn't let his player go too cheap. But why did he set up the price to a level where he wasn't comfortable with in the first place?

What does the staff think about this kind of situation?

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100172.50 in reply to 100172.49
Date: 7/22/2009 9:19:20 PM
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My problem with the current bidding system is that the player's owner can run up the price if he doesn't like the bidding.

That shouldn't be allowed. The starting price is the price you should be comfortable losing the player for. So the current owner of a player shouldn't be able to bid in order to make the price go up.

I got in this situation lately and lost a player because the owner didn't "like" the price I was about to get the player for. Chatting with him, he laughed saying he wouldn't let his player go too cheap. But why did he set up the price to a level where he wasn't comfortable with in the first place?

What does the staff think about this kind of situation?


There are downsides to this. No1 the current owner will have to pay the tax (minimum 3%) depending on what % of the re-sale he was due to gain. No2, the player will be treated like a new player on his roster and is likely to then start out with maximum 80% re-sale value. So if he has done this, then it can be an expensive decision. 20% of a $2mil player when he wanted $2.5 and then having to perhaps own him for 6more weeks (and pay his salary) - I wouldnt be upset.. if he doesnt want your money, plenty of other managers out there that will take it!

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100172.51 in reply to 100172.50
Date: 7/22/2009 9:26:19 PM
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ok but in the situation I experienced, the current owner didn't buy his player back. Another owner jumped in and bought the player, way after the initial deadline. Noone was bidding on this player until the current owner start bidding to make the price go up. I bid a few times until I realized this was the current owner trying to increase the price. Then the other guy came. So the current just got more money without having to pay any consequences.

I don't get it. No auction system allows a current owner to run up the bidding.
But if this is allowed here, I'll make sure to use it in my advantage.

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100172.52 in reply to 100172.49
Date: 7/22/2009 11:44:30 PM
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What does the staff think about this kind of situation?

When you make a bid this means you're willing to pay a certain amount for a player. If you're not willing, you don't bid. Where's the unfair part?

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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100172.53 in reply to 100172.51
Date: 7/23/2009 3:06:00 AM
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but a lot auction system allow to cancel your offer, or you could at least trick it to do so ;)

Maybe you are selling your backup guard because you are thinking this is to much luxus, you list your player and your starter got injured and you need him again. Why not holding your own player, especially when he was the best you could get before the game. And if someone bids on his own player don't bid with him and he often will pay a high price for the possibility of 3-4 additional bids.

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100172.54 in reply to 100172.53
Date: 7/24/2009 11:31:03 AM
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You don't get my point.

The situation was - no bid for a player except me and another coach/GM. The other guy stopped bidding. So I was about to get this player.

Within the last minute, the owner of the player came and started bidding on his own player. I put a few bids until I realized it was the owner of the player. Then I stopped.

The deadline was pushed because of these bids, then a new coach/gm came and bid too. He got the player for double the price I was about to get the player in the first place before the current owner run up the bid.

When asked about it, the owner of the player told me he wasn't going to let me have the player for the price I was about to pay.

So you all mean that this behavior is acceptable here? You can run up the bids if you think it doesn't go high enough. Is it what you mean?

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100172.55 in reply to 100172.54
Date: 7/24/2009 11:35:29 AM
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So you all mean that this behavior is acceptable here? You can run up the bids if you think it doesn't go high enough. Is it what you mean?

The owner doesn't have to sell a player unless he's satisfied with the price. You don't have to buy it unless you're satisfied with the price. I still don't seem a plausible explanation of what exactly the problem is.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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100172.56 in reply to 100172.55
Date: 7/24/2009 11:39:25 AM
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So you all mean that this behavior is acceptable here? You can run up the bids if you think it doesn't go high enough. Is it what you mean?
The owner doesn't have to sell a player unless he's satisfied with the price. You don't have to buy it unless you're satisfied with the price. I still don't seem a plausible explanation of what exactly the problem is.

However, the owner is raising the bid at his own risk. If he raises the bid and nobody bids, he loses a portion of the money he bid AND gets the player back with a lower % value in sales. I would not advise ANYONE to raise the bid in their own auction.

Last edited by Somebody Important at 7/24/2009 11:43:07 AM

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100172.57 in reply to 100172.21
Date: 7/24/2009 4:19:15 PM
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i agree

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100172.58 in reply to 100172.54
Date: 7/24/2009 9:43:16 PM
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i believe i get your, but maybe you don't get my?

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100172.59 in reply to 100172.1
Date: 7/26/2009 2:32:25 AM
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eee...I think that there should be a 3 min ex.
if there''ll be in someday that rule...nobady gonna sell enything...the bidders will wait for the end of the sell...and than bid...no can do...
...but agree on the market value...
regards

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