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Ok, perhaps it's none of my business and I shouldn't care, but why is it that all GM's are so quick to close threads in BB-Global that should be in the Help forum; yet, they let topics like this one exist in the help forum that haven't been help forum material for days? A little consistency would be nice, please.

The problem is that there is no main off-topic forum for managers to use for discussions like this. The non-BB national folders are difficult to get to and there's not much posted in them (for most countries, anyway).

which would still make then the right place at the point when it is just about if rondo better then westbrook etc.

But i think the topic start are at the right point, and why not allowing a bit off topic in here.

Paul Pierce should be in the HOF, cos hes been one of the celtics best and longest players.
Here is a list of the most likely to make HOF who are still currently active.

Rank Player HoF Prob
1. Shaquille O'Neal 1.0000
2. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
3. Tim Duncan 0.9999
4. Kevin Garnett 0.9979
5. LeBron James 0.9866
6. Dwyane Wade 0.9830
7. Paul Pierce 0.9632
8. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9245
9. Ray Allen 0.9200
10. Jason Kidd 0.9174

and OMG Steve Nash is 20th! behind the likes of T-mac and Vinsanity.. is it because hes Canadian? Outrageous!!!

11. Vince Carter 0.8796
12. Tracy McGrady 0.7429
13. Tony Parker 0.5637
14. Gilbert Arenas 0.4796
15. Grant Hill 0.4720
16. Pau Gasol 0.4607
17. Carmelo Anthony 0.4455
18. Amare Stoudemire 0.4304
19. Chris Bosh 0.4185
20. Steve Nash 0.3787

I'm actually really enjoying the discussion going on here and it makes me wish I could actually watch basketball games on tv here in holland.

And since the non-BB forums of USA and my own country are both pretty dead, I'm glad there's some leeway here.

You're right, thats a silly list. How can Nash be behind Arenas, Grant Hill and funniest of all Amare, who wouldn't have had the career he has without Nash. Nash should be at no. 7. Nice off-topic post btw.

So you have to make up your mind. Either they suck, and Rondo should be taking more shots and he isn't, or they're good so Rondo's assist average is disproportionate because he's just out there tossing them the ball. Can't have it both ways.

They're effective, absolutely. Pierce can still score on most defenders and is probably the craftiest scorer not named Kobe or Carmelo. Allen is a great shooter off screens. Garnett can post up good defenders, he's just not explosive anymore. And Rondo does do a good job of running the offense. It's not as black and white as you make it seem. Rondo is a fine player, but Westbrook is a better one.

Anyways, the Celtics go through many offensive lulls, which a better Rondo would help with (if he could hit an open jumper confidently, or if he used his driving ability to draw fouls more often, he'd power them through slumps, like Westbrook does with the Thunder). They're great because of defense.

Or maybe it will be exactly the other way around, since Rondo can get to the basket at will, and Westbrook doesn't know how not to play me-ball. Fact is, we'll never know since this is unlikely to be empirically tested.

What the hell is "me-ball"? I thought I was arguing with someone who was beyond tired cliches. Westbrook is as selfish as the sky is red. He does what he is asked to do, and he does it admirably.

Paul Pierce is a NBA champion, a finals MVP, and one of the most clutch players in the league. King and Aguire may have to wait, but Pierce is going in.

You may be right - because sportswriters have a very dulled out vision of the world, don't they? King didn't have the fortune of playing on a great team, but he's one of the best scorers in history. The greatest accolade is the observation upon watching a player that, holy shit, he is amazingly good. Pierce has always been very good, but his "legacy" is what it is because he happened to win a championship on a great team and a storied franchise that today's sportswriters grew up worshiping. All this while King was playing with Micheal Ray Richardson et. al. and if you think anyone with the simplified results-oriented views of your average sportswriter would root for them over the Great White Hope himself - then you aren't familiar with how we worship our heroes here in America.