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Date: 8/13/2009 3:05:19 PM
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But that really depends on trained skill.

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This might be the one you are looking for? (98371.35)

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Date: 8/13/2009 3:49:22 PM
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Thanks mannen, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Seriously, according to that list, it is possible to have a 6th man potential ending up really great. If it doesn't slow them down training, I really might as well not go for huge "MVP" types and I could settle for all-stars if I want to keep them for a long time.
Thanks for all the input!

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Date: 8/13/2009 4:18:03 PM
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Training will slow down quite noticeably once they hit their potential cap, though...

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Well having a big with star potential (according to the previous post) 33-40k is good enough big man to have at every lvl even as a sub. For my league lvl a big man with that salary could be the 3rd best so looks like it worth to train some young low potential players with good starting salary, at least to sale them on a good price

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Date: 8/13/2009 8:51:28 PM
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If you can find a young tall guy he will reach his cap much faster. So its worth having a decent potential so you can train him for a few seasons longer.

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Well i am training bigs and buying small. If for example buy a big man with starter potential around 100k, and then train his main skills up to 10-10-10 then at least u can sell him 1.2-1.5 mil. This is what i mean that is worth it to train low potential players

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In my opinion there is a too big interest in high potential players. If you train a star player he will reach a very good capacity and when he hit his potential cap he might be a bit old to train anyway. And your argument that you do need a $40k backup is very valid in my opinion as well. I also think that there is not much more that you will have if you sell a Perennial allstar or a star potential $40k player. Those buying a player with such high salary will be aware that if they will not keep training the player their capacity will be very similar (depending on skills of course).

It is very interesting to see the huge difference in transfer sums for an 18 year old MVP compared to an 18 year old allstar. I wonder how often they will get the MVP to a higher salary as well as sold for a higher sum of money. I suspect that it is better to buy two $4kstar potential than one $3k MVP (with some ugly starting skills as well) and a $2500 allstar and I do think that it will be much more expensive to buy the last two players. Both in terms of their capacity when you reasonably should stop train them because of age and regarding what you can get for them when you sell them. Seen so many $10k guys being sold for much less than $1M and it takes at least 2 seasons to have a well balanced players with such salary normally.

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Date: 8/14/2009 8:10:14 AM
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In my opinion there is a too big interest in high potential players.


I second that. I myself have "experimented" with different potentials up to the highest and currently there is absolutely no benfit in training superior potentials. In almost any league you will have a star player if this guy has a salary around 40-60k, and this level can be reached with "average"-potential "all-star" after a few seasons.

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Date: 8/14/2009 8:27:22 AM
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True. And even in national teams you see a lot of rather low potential players, especially in the U21 they are many. Would be even more if people were not so interested in training players according to their potential and not the current abilities.

I would not mind a player with just star potential and average at least in most skills and much less in remaining. Could become a very useful small forward with a perfect salary in just a few season. Might be better than a very well trained MVP with wrong skills at 18 years of age as they will sooner or later slow down in training due to age.

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Date: 8/14/2009 11:05:03 AM
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In my opinion there is a too big interest in high potential players.


I second that. I myself have "experimented" with different potentials up to the highest and currently there is absolutely no benfit in training superior potentials. In almost any league you will have a star player if this guy has a salary around 40-60k, and this level can be reached with "average"-potential "all-star" after a few seasons.


While the former might be right the latter is going to be something that I could hardly agree.

Training high potentials to maximun levels do have and important impact on performance. And while it might be true that a 40-60k player is a star in many leagues; that is not true for competitive first division leagues, where are supposed to be playing most of the high-potential-well-trained players.

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