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From: BB-Forrest

To: Coco
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112480.5 in reply to 112480.4
Date: 9/19/2009 8:33:49 PM
1986 Celtics
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1) this is really a question of game play versus realism, if we didn't rescout the crappy players, I dont think those scouting attempts could go to better players.. i mean they could, but it would change the dynamic of the gameplay and the tradeoff about investing in scouting etc... essentially makes scouting cheaper and more valuable... and those choices are important for a gameplay perspective so we can't just go after the realistic thing straight away.

2) I think we could consider adding in things like this if we looked at everything and thought the most valuable players were not realy getting to the worst teams, or the teams that invested more in scouting reliably. I'm not SURE this is happening at the moment... certainly it CAN happen, but it does happen in real life too in some respects.... but its a question of how often it should happen.

3) Again I think we should take a look at what happens to these 3rd rounders over the long term, if 95% of them end up fired in the first season of being drafted, I would agree... but if some teams are making smart uses of training these people a little bit and selling them for a profit, that's a strategy i'd rather let continue to flurish rather than removing the round.. and certaintly making the initial players better would be a major game play choice, and I think we are happy with the current spectrum of player abilities in the game.

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112480.6 in reply to 112480.5
Date: 9/20/2009 9:31:36 AM
Superhelden
III.3
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Second Team:
TV Harheim
About 1)

What about an extention like this:

The current scouting system remains the default option. This means that the scout focuses on an economic scouting, ie that he tries to visit the drafts so that he does not create huge travelling costs.
The new, alternative option is to allow the scout to scout players without the need to minimize travel expenses. Therefore the scout may take the private plane to scout a draftee even if he needs to travel across the entire country. Of course this will cause massively higher costs.

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112480.7 in reply to 112480.5
Date: 9/20/2009 10:03:31 AM
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Or, keep the draft as it is, but generate players pre season and give us weekly reports. The process would remain the same, but we get a feeling throughout the season on whats going on. I think this would probably lead to more team putting money in the draft. Kinda like putting money in the lottery, you never win, but it's exciting nevertheless. One more reason to log into BB, one more feature to get us hooked ;)

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112480.8 in reply to 112480.7
Date: 9/20/2009 10:21:37 AM
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like the idea, still think height range needs to be introduced though. even if its very vague.

From: Elmacca

To: Coco
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112480.9 in reply to 112480.4
Date: 9/20/2009 1:21:21 PM
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iii) there are exceptions. My $42k sal, 22yr old HoF pot guard was pick 47 in his draft and my utility back up forward has a TPE of 330k to 500k, having picked up bits and pieces of training over the seasons - he was my pick, number 44 in the draft that season.

Last edited by Elmacca at 9/20/2009 1:25:45 PM

From: Saltos
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112480.10 in reply to 112480.9
Date: 9/21/2009 4:43:07 AM
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I like the draft as it is now. But i would make one small move, like in the NBA every team in the league they are already well informed has great information about most of the "lottery" players to be picked and they are usually locked, the rest of the teams they do the most of the scouting.

So i would suggest that in every team draft report (even without scouting) the 5 or 6 best players would come full mentioned, they would probably fall to the teams with worst record of course. this would lead in my opinion to the need of teams with good records to invest in scounting to find some good pearl.

From: jacobomd

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112480.11 in reply to 112480.10
Date: 9/21/2009 6:36:43 AM
JMDCeltics
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Ask yourself: Is the number one of the draft the best scouted player?
If the answer is NO, something is wrong and it has to be fixed. I think the answer is no, you can see a player choosen number 45 of the draft and he´s better than number 1 or 2. That isn´t a perfect draft system.

From: Saltos

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112480.12 in reply to 112480.11
Date: 9/21/2009 9:15:25 AM
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That is the thing i think should be changed...

From: LA-Nir
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112480.13 in reply to 112480.12
Date: 9/21/2009 4:20:03 PM
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2) I think we could consider adding in things like this if we looked at everything and thought the most valuable players were not realy getting to the worst teams, or the teams that invested more in scouting reliably. I'm not SURE this is happening at the moment... certainly it CAN happen, but it does happen in real life too in some respects.... but its a question of how often it should happen.


at the end of season 8 i was piking 8 in my league the league had one of her best drafts yet and invested 40k per week i think for the all 14 weeks or atlist 12 full weeks i have resived rubbish information from a draft of i think 5 guys with superstar potential and over i got one 5 stars potential scouted with 4 skilles balls the rest of them wear worthless and you know what he was? a SG with 1 OD and superstar potential i end up selling 2 out of my 3 peeks and fireing the last one with the maising profit of 56k now you tell me that a team who invest 40k a week for 12+ weeks and chose 8 in the league get nothing from the draft ?

i dident ask for the best player but i am asking for more risnble draft system the corent draft system counts way to much on luck so if you invest money and have a good number (and 8 is a fine number not the best but ok) you shoud get something in return

otherwise keep uo the good work Nir (:

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112480.14 in reply to 112480.13
Date: 9/21/2009 4:34:21 PM
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I think the draft engine is ok. I think that the team placed in the last place should have better condition to get better picks and I think that is already being done with the inverse pick order.

Of course I don't expect that a team in last place with no money invested in the draft will get better picks than a team in last place that invested at least the minimum during the season.

From: ned

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112480.15 in reply to 112480.14
Date: 9/21/2009 4:45:58 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Second Team:
Slaytanic
tbhe problem is that even if you invest 20k/week you can't be 100% sure to have a great draft and even imho the draft sould be more funny if you can "see" week by week the progress of your young players getting better and more precise info about skills or at least stats. At the end I will prefer to change the all star game with a matches between the young players where you can follow your young players but probably this idea is good for a fantasy game

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