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123212.5 in reply to 123212.4
Date: 12/17/2009 8:23:41 AM
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something must be wrong on it, in 8 season I've got 4k fans after a relegation I've 1,9k fans


No, this was a change from last season, I believe. Relegating teams get a big hit to ticket holders because their supporters are upset. This is to even the competitive advantage for the teams in the series that you are relegating to.

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123212.6 in reply to 123212.5
Date: 12/17/2009 8:34:16 AM
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Losing STH again this season, as every season since I started this game.

But I've won 3 French Tournaments and 5 French First Division [;)]

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123212.7 in reply to 123212.5
Date: 12/17/2009 12:31:14 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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I hope so and of course I can understand it anyway we are cutting seats in the arenas cause "is not realistic" and it happens to lose half fans in one season when we needed 8 seasons to get them...

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123212.8 in reply to 123212.7
Date: 12/17/2009 12:49:47 PM
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I hope so and of course I can understand it anyway we are cutting seats in the arenas cause "is not realistic" and it happens to lose half fans in one season when we needed 8 seasons to get them...

You will never have 4,000 fans in II -- that's the way the game is designed. And you will receive a fanbase bump if you promote, so I don't see what the problem is.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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123212.9 in reply to 123212.8
Date: 12/17/2009 12:58:39 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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no problem here.
Simply and clearly, if you need 8 season to get 4k fans you cannot lost 2k fan in one season. Why? Because is not realistic.

Is less than important compare to the global economy but if there is a change in the arena cause the "old" system wasn't realistic this one is not different.

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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123212.10 in reply to 123212.9
Date: 12/17/2009 1:02:07 PM
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Simply and clearly, if you need 8 season to get 4k fans you cannot lost 2k fan in one season. Why? Because is not realistic.

The jury is still out on whether you need 8 seasons to do this. I'd say the number is grossly exaggerated.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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123212.11 in reply to 123212.10
Date: 12/17/2009 1:53:49 PM
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I agree,maybe 3 or 4 seasons if you reach the first division

I'm in my second seanson in LN and I have almost 3800 fans,tough I was a top second division team all the seasons I was there

and I fought against relegation last season in LN


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123212.14 in reply to 123212.13
Date: 12/17/2009 4:51:39 PM
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Why do you often run down other people's comments? The jury would never come in with your verdict. Many very good managers—I hope that I'm in that group—have worked very hard to get to II. Yes, even 8 years. The number is not grossly exaggerated. I can think of a good number of mangers who are still trying after that number of years or more to get to the highest league. For the sake of other managers, simply try to be a little less of an elitist. Thanks...

The discussion was not about how long it takes to get to the top level, it was about the fan base. The base STH are different on different levels (which is another way to say that there is some sort of soft cap). There are also bonuses/penalties for promotion and relegation.

So there are 2 things are likely to happen: one will never have 4,000 fans in D2, since the soft cap is quite a bit below this level, and when one promotes, one will have to "recover" significantly less than 2,000 due to the promotion STH boost. This makes the 8 season grossly exaggerated.

Maybe take a minute to process the comment before you slam it?




Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 12/17/2009 4:52:33 PM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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123212.15 in reply to 123212.4
Date: 12/17/2009 5:20:27 PM
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Well... I know the true! :)


MAX NUMBER OF SEASON TICKET HOLDERS IS AROUND 4100. And if you wanna have 4100 sth's you must win 1st league, national cup + B3.

So if you won only league, and lose in semi-final of national cup then you will have around 4040 sth's.

In 2nd level league max number of STH is 2800.


edit: We thank you for not making all-bold posts.
@edit: I have the numbers and I know the "formula" for this topic, so it's no need to about STH anymore ;)

P.S.
@edit: thank's for your message reply ;)

Last edited by Ozzy at 12/17/2009 5:36:51 PM

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