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I second your opinion. If shot blocking was useless to train, then why is it there?

1)Every training plan which have Shotblocking is bad

Depends on who you ask. If i were to take an advice on this and i asked BB-Charles and you for advice i would get the opposite answer from him and as he is one of the developers i think i would listen to him rather then you.

The fact that shotblocking don't worth the training because of a huge jump in salary and a strong impact on big man potential cap is a known fact.
If you want to ignore it,you can,but this thing will hurt you,and the fact that the centers of the best NT teams in the world usually have low shot blocking should tell you something...

Well that is just because SB is a defensive skill and doesnt show result as good as for example JS or JR. JR is a good example cause it is pretty much the same as SB but for guards. The one big differense is that you actually can see your players sinking mor threes with it in comparence to SB that not always is shown. But as i said, that if a developer says it is worth training i dont see any reason as why not to do it.

Wrong example.You see the difference in outside shooting efficiency on 3pt% an overall FG% when you improve JR,you don't see any substantial difference in the FG% of the adversaries when you improve ShotBlocking
The fact that a player with inside skills+shotblocking is better than a player with only inside skill is more than obvious and this is what Charles said...but the price on salary and potential cap compared to the performance SB gives you is absolutely too high and make more convenient train other inside skill or better spend your time in training secondaries skills

And those C's your talking about are just mono skilled monsters hardly anyone can afford. Most of them spend more time on the TL then actually play in a top team as they should.

Wrong,again
Example
Chile(world champion) big man salaries:
Ulf Görnitz $ 329 608
Salvador Barth $ 156 736
David Tapia $ 485 084
Laureano Bacigalupo $ 254 553
Luis Guzmán $ 261 187

Apart from Tapia,that in fact is always in bad shape,the other players seems to me affordable for the top teams...and again,chile is the world champion

China big man salaries:
Damdinsuryn Juchin $ 205 406
Sikong Congxing $ 280 460
Guo Hairong $ 247 715
Zhong Feilong $ 309 388
Sha Chenglin $ 429 760
Wu Wenmin $ 155 597
Lin Junhan $ 184 218

Again,apart from Chenglin,these are affordable salaries for a top team

As while training SB that does not show up in any stats rather then the SB in box scores but on another note helps defend against shots made but that will not always be credited as a BLK.
Since everybody says SB is a waste this has become widely known to all and accepted as a truth of the game. It may be over priced but then again we dont rely know exactly what it does to a full extent. But if it were a total waste i dont see why it should be in the game.
All i know is that when i do train up a C/PF i will train SB on him. Not as high as the other skills but i will absolutely train it.

IF SB was really useful,who has players with high SB,also if the number of blocks is low,should at least see the effect of this skills on their adversaries big man FG%...but I still don't hear nobody,not a Nt manager or a user manager noticing this kind of effect
SB probably has a little effectiveness,but less than any other skill in the game in my opinion,and his price is pretty high.So,train this skill isn't efficient for any manager,because any other skil has a better salary/performance/potential ratio,imho

perhaps you're looking for the effect at the wrong place? I always assumed Shot Blocking was best against Driving layups and similar shots - i.e., guards attacking the rim, not so much big men.

I also agree that while SB might be too expensive to use in higher leagues, having proficient Blockers is very nice for lower leagues, and indeed while I seldom train SB, I value Big Men with some SB highly. They don't simply help against the opponents' bigs, but can defend their Guards if necessary while having little OD. Having Big Men who combine for 5 blocked shots per game on average means I get a 5-10 point advantage from simply what I see in the box score, altered shots not included. To get the same advantage with 3-pointers, my players would need to sink 5-10 more 3s a game (because a 3-pointer is only 1 point more valuable than a normal bucket) which is quite a lot. People say high JR isn't worth it, and I might even agree, but they don't say JR isn't worth it at all; and SB might be a similar case.

perhaps you're looking for the effect at the wrong place? I always assumed Shot Blocking was best against Driving layups and similar shots - i.e., guards attacking the rim, not so much big men.

I also agree that while SB might be too expensive to use in higher leagues, having proficient Blockers is very nice for lower leagues, and indeed while I seldom train SB, I value Big Men with some SB highly. They don't simply help against the opponents' bigs, but can defend their Guards if necessary while having little OD. Having Big Men who combine for 5 blocked shots per game on average means I get a 5-10 point advantage from simply what I see in the box score, altered shots not included. To get the same advantage with 3-pointers, my players would need to sink 5-10 more 3s a game (because a 3-pointer is only 1 point more valuable than a normal bucket) which is quite a lot. People say high JR isn't worth it, and I might even agree, but they don't say JR isn't worth it at all; and SB might be a similar case.

Everyone thinks SB has a real utility,actually can use only assumptions,because no one has proven yet that really SB has a powerful effect on defence

The example is him: (4599819)

I remeber him as a strong adversary of Italian U 21 national team ,and I remeber that when he was put on TL at age of 21,his SB level was 14.He make 1,4 blocks /game this season in Bundesliga,and he pays these 1,4 blocks thousand of $
You think that buying player with thousand of $ higher salaries it would not give you more than,maybe,if you have 3 big man as him,10 points of 5 block/game?