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179699.5 in reply to 179699.3
Date: 4/8/2011 2:15:30 AM
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#3 is not necessarily true. I had a 26 year old pop 4 times this season and he didn't receive training every week. I had a 26 year old pop 7 times two seasons ago.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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179699.6 in reply to 179699.5
Date: 4/8/2011 7:34:42 AM
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A 36 year old can pop 4 times in one week if the sublevels are good enough but it doesn't prove that training a 36 year old is a good idea.

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179699.7 in reply to 179699.6
Date: 4/8/2011 7:52:52 AM
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A 36 year old can pop 4 times in one week if the sublevels are good enough but it doesn't prove that training a 36 year old is a good idea.

Ofc you mean 26 year old and 4 pops in one season, right? :P

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179699.8 in reply to 179699.7
Date: 4/8/2011 9:16:14 AM
BV Pistons
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No, he probably means a 36 year old and 4 pops in one week.
For example, let's say you have a 36 year old that this past week received full JS training for guards. Let's assume that all his sublevels in JS, JR, HN, and DR are at 0.99999. In this case, it would certainly be possible that all four of these skills would pop. Again, it is very unlikely, but it could happen.

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179699.9 in reply to 179699.8
Date: 4/8/2011 9:24:55 AM
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pffff....ha..ha..ha.. funny :P
The chance of that happening is like 1 in million...

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179699.10 in reply to 179699.9
Date: 4/8/2011 9:32:43 AM
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...or a billion
There's probably a better chance at winning the lottery

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179699.11 in reply to 179699.6
Date: 4/8/2011 11:33:48 AM
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What this has to do with my point remains a mystery to me. It does point out that the older a player is the higher his various sublevels may be, and also in a contextual way should point out that even if a "pop" does not occur, a player who is trained improves in the skills in which he is being trained.

My point was and still is that training players that are 26 is not a useless endeavor.
My 26 year old this season had 8 two position weeks, 1 single position week, and three team trainings.



Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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179699.12 in reply to 179699.11
Date: 4/10/2011 2:48:54 PM
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It never hurts to train a player, BUT... look at the transfer market. If you can buy a player with the same skills as your trainee, but younger (the younger the better), then buy this younger guy and sell your 26 year old.

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179699.13 in reply to 179699.6
Date: 4/11/2011 3:29:09 AM
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My 25 yr old big has popped twice in ID, twice in IS and one rebouding, JS,JR and handling...
My 27 yr old SG has popped twice in passing, JS, and handles...not to mention I crossed trained him and got a rebounding, IS, ID pop...26 is too old...what?

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179699.14 in reply to 179699.12
Date: 4/11/2011 11:48:09 AM
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Except that player values on the TL are not equal to player values in performance anymore. No one wants to buy a 26 or 27 year old player for what he is worth. So why not just keep him on my team and continue to watch him improve, albeit more slowly than a younger player. I couldn't replace either of the two players I mentioned earlier with the money they would bring in on the TL.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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179699.15 in reply to 179699.13
Date: 4/13/2011 10:05:14 PM
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My 27 yr old SG has popped twice in passing, JS, and handles...not to mention I crossed trained him and got a rebounding, IS, ID pop...26 is too old...what?


Óscar Canencia (6920914) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 64 071
Age: 27
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: superstar


Well that is very impressive. Now I don't have a 27 year old guard to compare but I do have a 27 year old 6'10 C. Using the Hungarian NT database it would take him 10.38 weeks to get a IS pop and 9.32 weeks for an ID pop and he is a lot taller than your guard. I do have a 6'2" 24 year old guard and accoring to the database it would take him 5.49 week to get a JS pop, 3.29 for a handling and 7.34 weeks to get 2 passing pops. This is all single position with a level 6 trainer. Now in every single case your guy would train MUCH slower than the guys I have used as examples. Obviously things like you say can happen but it is because of high sub-levels not because of your "amazing training routine" that allows you to get 35-40 weeks of pops in 14 or less.

I hope I can get similar results but as next season I am considering to keep on training my 23 (will be 24) year old SG and if he gets 6 pops next season like your guy I will be over the moon. However he hasn't had a pop for the last 9 weeks this season and may be capped which is another issue.

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