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From: Targess

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Date: 10/13/2011 7:11:05 AM
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Thanks Yoda, yeah Sandy has been a great player (C) as well and my team in general is already performing very well. I'll focus training on the 2 SG's though. Not sure how much money I'd get for Sandy but I don't really need cash as my balance is increasing by 50-60k a week already. Looking for a cheap lvl4-5 trainer, currently lvl3 but will make it a priority. I have already made a couple of decent younger prospects that are already performing well too. Just going to focus training for this season and next at least and see how the SG's develop. Anyways thanks again and all advice is fantastic and appreciated :D

From: yodabig

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Date: 10/13/2011 7:24:03 AM
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not going to build for elastic effect on od first?


This has been hotly debated by NT guys with three main schools of thought.

1) Do the first season on 1on1 which created an elastic effect on OD.
2) Do the first season on OD which creates and elastic effect on JR.
3) Train everything in balance so no skill suffers a reverse elastic effect by being too far out in front.

I am of the second school for three main reasons.

First if your player can defend he is less likely to foul and therefore more likely to be able to get 48+ each week without upsetting your teams routine too much.

Second if your player can defend then at least they can do something constructive and by using cross matchups on defence and the corect tactics you can minimise the negative impact on the team.

Third there is a lot of debate about 1on1 and JS training with some managers saying they never train JS because you get enough from 1on1 and JR and other managers saying they never train 1on1 because you get DR and HA as a secondary from most other training types (JS, OD, PA and JR). So I would suggest limiting them to two game weeks or weeks when things go wrong.

From: zyler

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Date: 10/13/2011 7:41:18 AM
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my 20 yr old trainee popped very well in od this season because of the elastic effect from high drv hnd.

he consistantly did this

od pop
od pop
no pop
od pop
no pop
od pop
od pop
no pop
od pop

as a 21 yr old ill head to jr next season hopefully elastic effect will be quite rewarding there too

From: abigfishy

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Date: 10/13/2011 6:45:44 PM
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ive done mostly 1on1 this season & my draft pick now has much higher js, ha & dr than od so i will see if he pops 2 times in every 3 weeks of pressure like ur guy did

hell be 19 6'0" with a level 6 trainer and a huge elastic effect so if there is any truth 2 this theory ill see it next season - if i do 12 weeks of pressure i should get 8-9 od pops according 2 this although by then i would be having reverse elastic effect

From: zyler

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Date: 10/13/2011 8:55:56 PM
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well this is what i got , though i was working with a massive elastic aswell

roughly 15/15/5 - if i remember correctly


edit - lv 7 trainer

Last edited by zyler at 10/13/2011 8:57:04 PM

From: abigfishy

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Date: 10/13/2011 8:58:14 PM
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wow that is really massive but i couldnt do that cause willy fouled too much so i had to give him some od to keep him in games

From: zyler

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Date: 10/13/2011 9:00:56 PM
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i didnt set it up lol , i bought him like that after reading alot about the elastic effect i wanted to see for myself , he was the biggest ellastic effect i could find.

his popped consistantly all season in od for me , if jr does the same next season i know how im training players from now on lol

From: abigfishy

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Date: 10/13/2011 9:07:38 PM
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funny i often see guys on the tl like that 20 yos with medicore od but wondrous js, ha & dr

i avoid them like the plague & always think stoopid manager

but maybe they r smarter than i thought :8

From: SplitJ
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Date: 10/13/2011 10:04:23 PM
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doesn't elastic effect all skills anyways?

you could easily do different training every week so that no skills get so far ahead and get slow down.

don't really like the other type of training especially with the new training system implement where all skills get trained. will make your 1 skill training even slower?

From: zyler

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Date: 10/13/2011 10:25:32 PM
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yer im wondering if just straight out swapping each time you get a pop in what your training is faster , that way no reverse elastic.

but with the speed 1 on 1 trains with the elastic effect that its shown me this season on od if jr gets a similar boost i cant see it beating it.

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Date: 10/13/2011 11:34:45 PM
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I had a great run wih Bergman in his prime. At the age of 22 i got 6 pops in JR from med to prolific in 8 weeks. His OD, JS & Passing were all trem/sens and his driving and handling were prolific from memory.

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