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204848.5 in reply to 204848.4
Date: 12/18/2011 2:49:44 PM
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The problem I find is that the estimated price of the rare well balanced player doesn't come close to his worth
The best that seems to be done is that the note appearing with his name says
He is probably better than all the others.
If we are to train the well balanced
they need some respect!

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Date: 12/18/2011 4:59:02 PM
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I agree the estimation does not work well. But to be honest, these players are not being owned by managers, who do not know their actual worth...

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Date: 12/18/2011 5:41:24 PM
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I wouldn't even begin to consider 20% above Estimated Value a crime. Now if it was 200%.....

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Date: 12/18/2011 8:17:31 PM
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You mean daytrading is hard now. That's a good thing! Obviously getting closer to economic equilibrium is going to lower the prices. Removing free agency in the future might raise the prices again. Greatly trained players still sell for a great price. Unequally trained players just keep losing their value.


Daytrading is hard xD? You must be joking

I see everyday players(rookies of 18-19 years) bought for 1k and after 1-2 weeks they are sold for 100k(i saw some GM's doing this too, it's legal, but not a good example) and most of the times who buy them are new managers who don't know what they are doing.

Obviously getting closer to economic equilibrium is going to lower the prices


That's something i doubt it's going to happen, i've read this since season 7 or so and now the TL is more like a jungle where if you are lucky and you sell high you can make the difference.



The free agents are doing big unbalances on the leagues, most of the times they don't hit a ''fair price'', they are sold for less than the player is worth(apart from 1-2 good FA's), they are more a good opportunity than anything else.

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@Superfly Guy

I agree with you 'TL' became too powerfull, there's a big difference between the managers who spend lot of time scouting the TL and those who like to spend the time thinking on the training&scouting the opponents.

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204848.10 in reply to 204848.3
Date: 12/19/2011 12:07:14 AM
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Training balanced players (multi-tremendous) that won't ever win you games of any importance are the only players you can break even with.



yeah, i worried it will get to the point where it is impossible to get to the top leagues without going on suicide runs (aka Venomous Scorpions). That is, being in the top divisions requires player salaries that are not sustainable, leading to teams saving money for a while in DII or DIII, then making a break for DI and BBB. This has already happened in, well, we all know what I'm referring too, as well as BBB.

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Date: 12/19/2011 12:46:57 AM
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To effectively show the "demise of BB", you would need to present an example of what a 115k player sold for 5 seasons ago and compare that to the present rate of $ 1 149 000. All you've shown with this example is that a player's TL value greatly decreases once the player is no longer trainable. Sounds pretty logical to me.

Of course prices have decreased across the board for players, save for NT trainees and SFs. This can be explained by the much greater supply of solid players, combined with the same demand.

I'm confused, didn't you bring this issue up a few months ago with an equally flawed, much cheaper example? (189530.1)


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Date: 12/19/2011 3:05:55 AM
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I'm simply throwing ideas out there... the real crux of the problems in my opinion is the decision not to make equal size leagues (to appease the NT lovers)... from here it was a slippery slope down... there was a refusal to try & rectify the imbalances created by the small nations vs large ones.

I guess I'm just having my seasonal rant in the hope we will eventually get some radical news... it needs to be enough to upset a large % of managers & I'm happy to take the risk of being in either camp... rules that effect certain teams for the better or the worse.

From: profit007

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204848.13 in reply to 204848.9
Date: 12/19/2011 7:14:10 AM
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BB is a money game! If you train your SF, SG and PGs from scratch to make the team, you'll end up like me! Better buy them off the TL! >_<


I hear what you are saying. In our country's top league more and more teams don't even bother to train players because:
-They save money because they don't buy trainers and don't pay huge salaries for them;
-They can shop cheaply for already trained players on TL with money they saved;
-They don't need to lose games because their trainee has too low skills for league level;
-They don't need to lose games while training out of position;
-They don't need to count minutes for trainees and they usually keep very good GS this way.

Last edited by profit007 at 12/19/2011 7:20:25 AM

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204848.14 in reply to 204848.13
Date: 12/19/2011 2:29:36 PM
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I train players because I find it the most fun part of BB
but what you said has planty of merit

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