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From: E.B.W.

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211911.5 in reply to 211911.4
Date: 3/3/2012 1:14:07 AM
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Well what usually happens (From what i understand) Is it doesn't explain whats going on for all 40 minutes of the game. It just says the main plays that are happening. Therefore it wont say "so and so drives to the basket and passes it right to so and so for the dunk", it will just say "so and so throws it down with two hands off a nice pass from so and so" or something along the lines of that I can't really 100% prove it to, but i do promise it does get you easier shot selection, more assists, and more shooting fouls called on the other team.

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211911.7 in reply to 211911.5
Date: 3/3/2012 7:44:08 AM
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Well what usually happens (From what i understand) Is it doesn't explain whats going on for all 40 minutes of the game. It just says the main plays that are happening. Therefore it wont say "so and so drives to the basket and passes it right to so and so for the dunk", it will just say "so and so throws it down with two hands off a nice pass from so and so" or something along the lines of that I can't really 100% prove it to, but i do promise it does get you easier shot selection, more assists, and more shooting fouls called on the other team.

I was under the assumption that each call (announcement) was part of the calculating decisions of the game.

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211911.8 in reply to 211911.2
Date: 3/3/2012 7:52:32 AM
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there's a much better chance of an offensive rebound


Any evidence to back this statement?

I assumed that driving could help to grab offensive rebounds, asked like two years ago on the forums, and a couple of people told me that there was no correlation in driving and OR.

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211911.9 in reply to 211911.8
Date: 3/3/2012 8:07:52 AM
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There should be no relation. The Rebounding stat is used to calculate the likeliness to grab an offensive rebound, not driving. Because when you drive, you need skill to keep possession of the ball and not turn it over. Whereas, people aren't gonna try and stop you from standing under the basket. What I mean is, you have nothing to lose possession of. I firmly believe that the rest of the procedure(boxing out and actually grabbing the rebound) is purely based on the Rebounding skill.

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211911.10 in reply to 211911.6
Date: 3/3/2012 8:31:45 AM
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I belive DR creats better shots and not passes. However i have nothing to back that up with more then what the game manual says about DR.
Driving: Allows the player to create his own shot without a good pass from a teammate. Better driving creates shots more often and creates better shots on average.

Sure you do. You can see players with high driving but low passing, not giving a lot of assists. That means, driving is only to create better shots, and I even doubt that.

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211911.11 in reply to 211911.9
Date: 3/3/2012 9:01:13 AM
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There should be no relation. The Rebounding stat is used to calculate the likeliness to grab an offensive rebound, not driving. Because when you drive, you need skill to keep possession of the ball and not turn it over. Whereas, people aren't gonna try and stop you from standing under the basket. What I mean is, you have nothing to lose possession of. I firmly believe that the rest of the procedure(boxing out and actually grabbing the rebound) is purely based on the Rebounding skill.


Difference between a driving shot and a regular jumpshot is the proximity to the basket. So my theory back in the days was, that if a player is closer to the basket the probability of grabbing a rebound should be higher. Maybe the fact that players rebounding their own failed three point attempts is a good piece of evidence that it makes no difference where on the court a player stands...

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211911.12 in reply to 211911.11
Date: 3/3/2012 9:06:47 AM
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Maybe players grabbing defensive rebounds after block shots is a good piece of evidence to how perfect the Game Engine is........

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211911.13 in reply to 211911.12
Date: 3/3/2012 10:46:27 AM
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I thought Driving was used for a player to create his own shots. That means the player dribbles towards the basket (so Handling is necessary, too), but the shot will not always end up being a dunk or layup, it can also be a shot from the perimeter, elbow or wherever the GE determines the high percentage shot is, depending on the skills of the players and the tactic.

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211911.14 in reply to 211911.13
Date: 3/3/2012 10:50:08 AM
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You are right.

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211911.15 in reply to 211911.14
Date: 3/3/2012 12:00:18 PM
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Maybe players grabbing defensive rebounds after block shots is a good piece of evidence to how perfect the Game Engine is........


This happens in real life, too. The blocked shot doesn't quite make it to the rim and the blocking player grabs it as an example. This is technically a block and defensive rebound. I know this isn't how it is calculated in the engine, but it's not out of the ordinary. The engine does not take any consideration to spacing on the floor.

I have found some success with DR and little IS. It works okay against guards because they don't generally have enough ID or BL to defend even the minimal IS.

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