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From: Marot

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Date: 5/2/2012 11:02:21 AM
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i agree with baruch there, i don't like to freeze a roster so much and the people still can sell players before the deadline if they want(and most likely for a bigger profit since the market before the PO is quite good for the sellers)

I think we need a solution to make tanking less actrative then it is today, without making it impossible for new teams in small countrys or teams who bancrupted there teams to get out of debt again. Not so easy as it sounds ;)


Well, in that case BB's should take more in count the 90-95% of the managers in this game than a minory that haven't problems with the economy.

Anyway i'm really sure it's quite easy to introduce a higher salary floor and doing some exceptions in some countries...

From: Ehud

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Well, in that case BB's should take more in count the 90-95% of the managers in this game than a minory that haven't problems with the economy.

Anyway i'm really sure it's quite easy to introduce a higher salary floor and doing some exceptions in some countries...


I agree.
Several real leagues in Europe have that. They doesn't call is "salary floor" - They just call it "Minimum budget".
Minimum budget's purpose is to make sure no team will be to much of an embarrassment to the league it self.

In real life it's easy. each team has to deposit a minimum budget before the league starts. In BB world we can just use the T.V contract as a referral of the league's economy. For example "T.V contract*X = minimum budget"

In case I take my league as an example (Israel first division) - 233K * 2.5 = 582.5K
583.5K should be minimum budget (Same thing as floor salary) - meaning who ever pays less then 583.5K salary will pay the delta anyway.
This will ensure a minimum level of competition in each league.


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Date: 5/2/2012 1:19:01 PM
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I will say it again to you, as I often say to the d.1 managers who whine and/or justifiably complain about this game. For the vast majority of users your arguments are not valid. If the game has gotten away from what you think is worhtwhile, maybe it is time to move on to other forms of emtertainment. The BBs have a responsibility to make the game as playable as possible for the largest number of players. In d.3, 4, and 5, I believe that a lot of these problems either do not exist or are not nearly as catastrophic as the small and vocal goup of high divisions forum posters claim them to be.

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Date: 5/2/2012 1:48:57 PM
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It's may be why I first say it was only applying to top division ?
and why I said I had no plan with my team anymore. (i'm just a semi farm team who enjoy training players)

But as far as I know it isn't because not every users are concerned with some stupidity in a game that we can't discuss about something stupid and make it evolve to something, at least, less stupid.
May be it's why buzzerbeater is stuck at 50k users since more than 2 years (even less now), people just seems to self satisfy.

I take the game as it is and still enjoy (and enjoying even more since I don't fight for the win), but I'm just staying open to view this game going better.

Last edited by Abukar at 5/2/2012 1:55:12 PM

From: _Az_

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Date: 5/2/2012 1:59:19 PM
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No problem Baruch (and others ;)). I'm just throwing some stupid ideas because I don't like to "complain" without giving one idea or two :p

Just to be sure, these rules would only apply to team still in competition. Harder to implement but if you want a realistic game, you have to work harder in order to meet expectations.

We will see in some days but I doubt a lot of people loves to see forfeit team in PO/PD. The same pool could be done about tanking and would probably meet the same disapproving. So why doing nothing against this ?

By the way, I see you aren't against the tax idea after all. So it could be an idea.
Honestly and as Abukar stated, I think a total re-hauling is necessary. But patchwork for immediate action would still be good the time the re-hauling is done :)

The idea to raise higher the minimum budget is fine too. Except it will not apply at the end of the season when they aren't salary to pay if you don't have any official match.


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Date: 5/2/2012 3:22:50 PM
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I don't think BB is realistic. It's a casual game with a realistic, rather good GE.

Thinking freely here.

To prevent this situation, "lock" rosters, let's say 2 weeks into the season and allow only a few buy/sells during the season.
New teams wouldn't be subject to this rule.
Huge consequences on the TL. Limited transfer period pushing for higher fees, annoyance for casual BBers as you need free time during the transfer period, dead market out of the period.
Not ideal. Add probable unforeseen effects.

Or severely penalize revenues, upset fans are upset. Arena revenues could be higher (at the expenses of other revenues) and more stable but very susceptible to tankings and given up games, too weak lineups would penalize too.
Overall, very difficult to implement and fine tune.

Both solutions are very binding.

From: Ehud

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Date: 5/2/2012 5:05:03 PM
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First of it's good we agree...

I rate ProA in France as a better league then Israel. Our Average salary was around 750 - 700 during the season. I don't see any reason the salary floor should be around 400K - I would like to see it at around 550 - 600.

Managers shouldn't tank! if they want to stop competing so be it. They won't make money out of it (Not a lot of it at least...)

"Did you miss me??? - "With every bullet so far..." Al Bundy
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To: Ehud
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Date: 5/2/2012 5:48:02 PM
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There are a bunch of simple things that could fix these problems with the game easily.

1) Increase the salary floor, it should be around 2/3 of the league average in the top leagues but remove it in the bottom ones, you shuld be able to tank in division IV not I.
2) Lock playoff rosters about 1 week after the all star break as they do in the NBA. No last minute "rentals".
3) Teams that forefit a match also forefit their TV money that week (so at least they will have players and not wreck others training)
4) Teams don't get TV money in weeks they don't have a competitive game. (This will make 5th a lot less attractive.)

From: LA-Nir

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Date: 5/2/2012 8:05:31 PM
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Player Salaries: $ 486 129

most of the seaon it was abut 700-750 now it is 486

the thing is 3 out of the 8 teams in the OP sold 50%+ of their roster and just throu the PO away as they lose money out of it (as the only team out of the 4 lower seaded teams who didentn do it and lost i can tell you me and my 770 sallery are paying a high price for it)

right now the worst place to be in is 3-4 place
this year OP game i had perfect game plane (well apperently not perfect as i lost but still kinda close to it)
i had all the defensive matchups i wanted and all the offensive matchups i wanted but apperently HCA is just ot much to beat
for next time if i get to 3-4 place i know what i am going to do

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