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Not fouling in last minute of game

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220060.5 in reply to 220060.1
Date: 6/13/2012 9:53:45 AM
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http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/46141798/reportmatch.aspx?realTime=2814
Fast forward to 46min 54seconds.

1:01 left, team hits a 3. down by 1. timeout for opponents.
56 left steal for me
49 steal for them
no foul?
44 seconds they shoot, I rebound, timeout.
32 left I shoot, miss, they rebound.
No foul?
16 seconds left they shoot. miss, offensive rebound
no foul?!
0 seconds left my team steals, but no time to shoot the ball.

in an 89-90 game... Those last 49 seconds.... the game engine is telling me. That the team trailing by 1. would not foul, and try and get the ball back... in ANY of those situations?
This seems highly unlikely. Yes there's no guarentee my team scores, or makes a shot, or doesn't turn it over. But to not foul, and not give themselves the chance? really?

5 guys on court:
2 with atrocious
1 with inept experience
1 with respectable
1 with prolific

I feel, that the experience of them... they should have fouled.


Looking at this further....

Why wouldn't my team call a timeout at the 56 second mark after they make the steal too?

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220060.6 in reply to 220060.5
Date: 6/15/2012 12:35:37 AM
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No comment to this?

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220060.7 in reply to 220060.6
Date: 6/15/2012 6:36:20 AM
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It's a possible scenario. The players decide they need a steal but fail to get it on time. Maybe they were close to a steal (a player double teamed in a corner, etc...) and they thought a steal was a sure thing, yet it failed to happen. In the meantime the clock runs out and a foul was not made in time. Happens in real life, can happen here too.

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220060.8 in reply to 220060.7
Date: 6/17/2012 11:21:57 AM
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I can think of 2 situations there.... that happened. that are not possible scenarios. Unless for the timeout, you have 0 timeouts left.

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220060.10 in reply to 220060.9
Date: 6/17/2012 11:27:43 PM
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Yeah. But my 46K guy had no problem draining the 3 to bring us within 1.

Also, after the first defensive stand... or even the steal... Why not call a timeout? They had timeouts to call. You're down 1. You have less than a minute, and possession, with multiple timeouts left... why not use 1?

Real coaches don't end a close game like that with 2 timeouts left. Not realistic, not even fictious realistic!

From: Kukoc

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220060.12 in reply to 220060.11
Date: 6/18/2012 3:22:10 AM
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I think game engine uses fiba rules for timeouts. That means you can't call one when the ball is alive. You can only call one when there is a game stoppage.

From: CrazyEye

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220060.13 in reply to 220060.12
Date: 6/18/2012 5:44:49 AM
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I think game engine uses fiba rules for timeouts. That means you can't call one when the ball is alive. You can only call one when there is a game stoppage.


are you sure about that, i thought the difference was that the player couldn't call the timeout but having possesion is enough?

But imho the decision not to call a timeout, with the speed the game have especially when he comes into a fouling situation is ok.

That he didn't foul in the last possetion was the questional part.

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220060.15 in reply to 220060.13
Date: 6/18/2012 6:51:59 AM
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I think game engine uses fiba rules for timeouts. That means you can't call one when the ball is alive. You can only call one when there is a game stoppage.


are you sure about that, i thought the difference was that the player couldn't call the timeout but having possesion is enough?

But imho the decision not to call a timeout, with the speed the game have especially when he comes into a fouling situation is ok.

That he didn't foul in the last possetion was the questional part.


Ok.. if fiba yeah the timeout, nyeh, sucks but makes sense. The 16 seconds and not fouling... 3 guys on court with "high" experience. the best player in the league on the court on my team... I just would like to think, they wouldn't (successfully mind you) go for the steal with only 16 seconds, not having ball, no shot clock, and down by 1, esp after recently hitting a big 3.

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