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From: brian

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248324.5 in reply to 248324.4
Date: 9/18/2013 10:15:01 AM
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The hard part is seeing them double back on making changes to the game (shot blocking, now jump range) after so many seasons of insisting nothing was wrong. I understand that it might be necessary to make these changes but there was no warning.

I'd prefer to see these changes appears after with seasons notice, or implemented in steps so we can all adjust.

Terrible lack of communication and forewarning, but a move that is probably good for the game.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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Date: 9/18/2013 10:42:03 AM
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When you have to make changes this many seasons into the game there's no way to please everybody. There's nothing that can be done now, but ideally they would have accepted these changes needed to be made 10+ seasons ago when it was already clear that JR and SB needed to be looked at. Then changes could have been phased in slowly over time.

Like annual salary adjustments. We know they make an adjustment and that it's coming. In this case it was a large change that, if I'd have known many seasons ago that it was coming, could have made long term changes to training and team builds.

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Date: 9/18/2013 11:23:56 AM
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I kinda understand the frustrations about not announcing this change explicitly before hand, but I'll try to explain the combination of reasons why we didn't wait for another season.

The change doesn't come completely out of the blue. Since the season 24 news item we already mentioned we would be monitoring the effects of the SB change and that we might make any additional change if required. In this post (244443.27) I already mentioned we were also considering not only game engine effects, but also possible salary changes. Indeed, we never explicitly said we would make this particular change, but it's certainly one that should not have you completely caught offguard. The whole of season 24 we have still seen lots of discussion about the LI dominance, clearly there was a lot of doubt in the community if the change was sufficient of which one of the reasons is of course the lack of well trained shot blockers in game.

Now, when it comes to larger changes we indeed have always stuck to the planning argument; announce it at least a season in advance. You will see some of these announcements this season as well. And yes, for this salary adjustment we also discussed whether it would be better to just announce it for season 26 or apply it right away. Essentially it comes down to this; the change should not bring managers in huge trouble, as it should reduce costs overall (when we would increase overall salary it would be a whole different story) and since the change shouldn't be coming completely out of the blue I believe it's beneficial for the game enough to do it today rather than in 16 or so weeks. So yes, I understand this is not optimal when it comes to long term planning, but it's better to have a windfall than a setback, right? ;)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 9/18/2013 11:40:35 AM

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248324.10 in reply to 248324.9
Date: 9/18/2013 11:39:53 AM
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A Ball for the Headless Chicken. It is sooooooooo nice to see a post written by a BB. Thanks a million BB-Patrick.
Looks like I have some JR and SB training to do...

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248324.11 in reply to 248324.9
Date: 9/18/2013 12:09:38 PM
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Thanks for your detailed explanation. I fully agree. :)

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248324.12 in reply to 248324.3
Date: 9/18/2013 12:55:20 PM
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Sb and ID is really cheap i have a 9 11 10 guy his salry is 7k lol....And i think my center which is now listed as 32k salary pg got his salary increased by 3k cause of his 15 passing? or only it seems for me?

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 9/18/2013 12:56:26 PM

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248324.13 in reply to 248324.9
Date: 9/18/2013 4:44:46 PM
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I am really curious to find out who "we" might be . You show up on the forums every couple of months, the biggest issues of the game haven't been solved in YEARS and still its raining likes for your statement left and right.

The community is still undecided if the shotblocking change was helpful and now you do another change that not only comes out of the blue but will not show effects until like mid 2014, until then we will have less than 25k users and the downward spiral will turn faster and faster. Achievements are still bugged like its 1989 and as far as I see nodoby is really interested in this stuff.

I am puzzled how after all those years you still have not found a way to communicate with the userbase and how you are knowingly butchering the game...

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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248324.14 in reply to 248324.13
Date: 9/18/2013 5:08:23 PM
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Don't worry Knecht while I may show up only every couple of months, I still remember your infamous habit of projecting "I think" into "we think", quite ironic that you ask to find the "we", right?
If you replace all collective terms in your message with I, me or my, suddenly your message seems to be correct.

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248324.15 in reply to 248324.14
Date: 9/18/2013 6:04:26 PM
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Well I guess ignoring a couple thousand users that left the game, might be a reason you think adressing my opinion as a single persons thought might be alright. You're doing it wrong! Srsly.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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