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270968.5 in reply to 270968.4
Date: 6/14/2015 12:03:52 AM
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Things actually became clearer to me in Marin's post in this thread. Although I understand the rationale of the changes, I still feel its effects even if I train players. I am having a harder time completing my roster and replacing my older players.

1. Marin reduced the amount of trainable players so that teams will focus more on the draft. From experience (investing 4 points/week and using it all in my first few seasons), there is an average of about 8 good players in the draft so obtaining one is easy as long as you invest. Although 18 year old A+ skill A+ potential is of course rare.

2. Yes, teams from lower leagues may suffer, but it all evens out since your opponents are also from the same league. So either all of you suffer or none of you suffer. Either way, it does not affect your chances of promoting. If I remember correctly the BB's focus in designing the game is to make league games competitive.

3. That is a reasonable strategy. However, I've seen teams win it through other means. Another strategy is spending cash immediately on older players and hope they can carry the team to a championship. I've seen teams do both strategies and be successful.

4. Try to post in the suggestion forums on how to improve training. Maybe you can help. :)

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270968.6 in reply to 270968.5
Date: 6/14/2015 12:45:13 AM
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From Marin:
“1. The FA reduction is intentional.” Yes, I think we all realize that now.
“2. The effect of the FA rule changes is not as drastic as it seems.” I agree … and hope to God we are both right, since I see the direction of the change as negative.
“3. Inflation of player prices directly motivates training, which is a good thing in my book.” Yes, I think we all see that, too. Of course, making training less expensive and more logical would also have motivated training without staining the rest of the game so badly. Making training less expensive and more logical would be a rising tide that lifts all ships. You don’t get a chance to fundamentally improve the game like that very often, so I hope this one has not passed us by.
“4. … Nothing too drastic in the grand scheme of things.” I agree. It is the direction the game is taking that worries me.

From Lemonshine:
“1. The actual reduction of trainable players hurts training.” I agree. The draft cannot come close to providing enough trainable players, not even close. And new teams are not gifted with hardly any.
“2. When prices increase, the teams who suffer the most are the ones with a limited economy, so mainly those in lower leagues and/or with small arenas and/or fewer salary efficient players.” Yes, those of us in the lower- and mid-level leagues already know that the change damaged us the most. Why they would want to disadvantage the levels where there are the most managers, and where many of the managers are not yet hooked on BB, escapes me.
“3. It doesn't hurt everybody at all levels.” Right. As you point out, hoarders at the upper levels will do just fine, though why they would want to reward those people escapes me.
“4. If they wanted to reward training, it would seem completely logical to change and improve training.” Yes, I said much the same thing in discussing Marin’s point number three.

So, strangely enough I agree with all 4 of Marin’s points and all 4 of Lemonshine’s points.

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270968.9 in reply to 270968.3
Date: 6/14/2015 4:08:40 AM
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Over the past few weeks, I observed the players going on the free agency and I can say that all those players draw interest with high market value. Before the change, there were some bad players with high salary on the free agency who were sold for very low prices, I couldn't see any of those. This is a good and confirmed part of the changes.

The other thing is the retirement process and I believe, apart from Marin, no one knows enough to talk about it. If you complain about the lack of young talented players going to free agency, there were none before. If you complain about not being able to fill your roster with old cheap players, I believe it's a good thing. What we still need to judge the changes is to evaluate players who get retired in terms of TSP.

Last edited by Nico4nicolas at 6/14/2015 4:09:17 AM

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270968.10 in reply to 270968.7
Date: 6/14/2015 4:50:10 AM
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Oops, you're right. The amount of trainable players actually increased. It should be the number of trainable players did not increase as much as Lemonshine hoped it would.

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Date: 6/14/2015 10:40:44 AM
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1. Marin reduced the amount of trainable players

There has been no such reduction.


QUOTE from Marin: "1. The FA reduction is intentional." So not only DID he reduce the FA's, it was intentional.

The good thing with FA is that it can be altered every season. If Marin see or is convinced by logical arguments that there should be more FA, he can expand the net and saves more players. FA net has been changed in the past, to be bigger or smaller.

The change has barely happened and already we are talking about reversing it.

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270968.13 in reply to 270968.12
Date: 6/14/2015 12:35:59 PM
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Some seasons ago the scouting options for the draft was improved. Now the importance of the draft is improved. Seems to be a good idea.

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