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283881.5 in reply to 283881.4
Date: 12/14/2016 12:29:08 PM
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I have no idea why theyve never changed the training by position minutes played in after all these seasons..have they ever said why?

Apart from the fact that they like to force decision on managers, in this case making it difficult to train and compete (hard to train a C at PG and win) I can't think of anything they've said about it.

I'm yet to completely understand the desire to make it so difficult to train and compete that it is not difficult, its next to impossible. If you were training three players and could play them in their natural position (eg, training ID on a PG in his own position) it would still be difficult to compete at a high level, so even then I don't understand the need for training out of position.

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Date: 12/14/2016 9:47:44 PM
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Increased prices for high potential young players would definitely be a side effect of easier training. MVP, HOF and ATG potential players would go for big bucks.

However, Allstar, PAS and Superstar players would go for less which would balance things out.

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283881.8 in reply to 283881.7
Date: 12/14/2016 11:07:21 PM
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and now they arent going for big bucks? lol
croatian 18 y/o MVP went for 8M so...

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Date: 12/15/2016 9:16:08 AM
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Or at the very least expand the positions so that you have more options.

By that I mean allowing outside shooting to be trained at the SF position. OD trained at PG, SG or SF. Likewise ID trained at SF, PF or C. Passing at all positions. Things like that.


I discussed an idea with wolph several seasons ago. The idea was similar to yours:

I. Every Skill can be trained at 3 Positions.
II. You can only train 3 Players per Week.
III. Those Players have to Play 48+ minutes at a Position


This way you dont have to play your trainees in league games if you don't want to (you might want to play them to gain experience or to save money on your meams payroll)
You only have to play them "not-far-out-of-position" in order to train
and you can use them as backups at their natural Position and watch them grow.

A big objection however would be that you would have no disadvantaged in training if you are a first Division Coach compared to a newcomer.

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Date: 12/15/2016 12:36:22 PM
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I discussed an idea with wolph several seasons ago. The idea was similar to yours

I think I remember it, though Wolph made many suggestions about training, most of them sensible enough.

A big objection however would be that you would have no disadvantaged in training if you are a first Division Coach compared to a newcomer.

In most first divisions your trainee is going to be against a better player. Certainly if I play even a $12k salaried PG in a first division game I'm disadvantaged. Though I would agree not as much as if I play him at C.

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Date: 12/15/2016 3:24:05 PM
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If training was easier, top rookies (and even mediocre ones, as long as their potential is high enough) fresh from draft would sell for even more than now. Much more. Talking about inflation...

Anyway, in my opinion it is not THAT hard to train, or even train & compete. But it helps if your trainees are not of the same age - if, for instance, you have 25, 22 (league games) and 19 yo (cup/scrimmage) trainees, it doesn't affect your competitive abilities too much, as long as you train well. When you finish the oldest (at 28), you add a new one and so on.

Oh well, just a thought


You still have to grind a player for 48 minutes, not using a backup will lower the quality of the production.

Training system is and always has been stupid.

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Date: 12/16/2016 8:21:40 PM
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I have no idea why theyve never changed the training by position minutes played in after all these seasons..have they ever said why?

Because according to them there is no problem with it...

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283881.13 in reply to 283881.12
Date: 12/17/2016 12:14:41 AM
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I have no idea why theyve never changed the training by position minutes played in after all these seasons..have they ever said why?

Because according to them there is no problem with it...


Sometimes when you've worked on a project for so long you are not capable of seeing its weaknesses like outsiders can.....

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283881.15 in reply to 283881.14
Date: 12/18/2016 8:13:05 AM
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No one is arguing that training is impossible. What people are saying is that it is illogical to only allow 3, 6, 9, 12 players to be trained in a single skill each week. That makes no sense and needs changed. Every single change the BBs are making to "fix" the economy are a direct result of this issue.

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