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291796.5 in reply to 291796.4
Date: 1/7/2018 10:25:44 AM
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I think an additional problem with the 1-3-1 paired with an outside oriented offense is the problem that in my mind gives so much power to the LI regime, and that is cost.

Guards are so much more expensive offensively, and bigs are so much more expensive defensively. Think about it, to guard outside offenses, which require your team to have high Driving, Handling, Jump Shot, and Jump Range, all the other team needs to do is pump one skill - OD. To properly guard against an inside offense, we have seen that high ID usually isn't enough and that you also need shot blocking, and actually also still OD while the other team just pumps Isnide Shot to get through.

It may not be quite as simple as that, but Wolph's mantra that all you need to win is OD and IS is not that far away from the truth. Of course there are other ways, the problem is just that they are much more expensive and difficult to train.

(Hat's off to you for making it through that difficiult to train part with your three boys)

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291796.6 in reply to 291796.4
Date: 1/10/2018 12:27:43 AM
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Busch's case is very interesting not so much because of his "aggressive" trait, but because, I really didn't spend to much time pondering on the possibility of seeing my center go out and try to contest outside shots, but then again, defensive breakdowns happen all the time in basketball, leading to unfavorable matchups that may result in something similar to what you experienced with Busch, especially when playing a zone. Even though the "aggressive" trait played such a huge role on defense when Busch would attempt to contest the opposing PG, how much of a role do you personal feel your OD rating on Busch played into Busch's untimely mishap during the game? Would you say his OD was a liability, in general, relative to his position?

In regards to the rebounding challenge, if you're running into such frustrating issues on the defensive glass, I can only imagine how irritating it'll be having to experience that dilemma at a slightly larger scale. Even if the extra RB from the guards doesn't have the impact I'd hope it has, grabbing a few extra offensive rebounds every game should help minimize my weakness on the defensive glass which should help me at least "stay in the game"...right?

This is gonna be a lot more difficult than I initially anticipated :/ . All the little intricacies that comes with making this play style a reality is definitely gonna be expensive, like Chek noted. I feel as though the market's supply of versatile and unconventional players that are needed to make this system, at the most, semi-successful are scarce and will take some time to get my hands on. Training doesn't seem like it's gonna be a piece of cake either.

Nevertheless, I'd like to thank hrudey and Chek for providing their insight on this topic.

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291796.7 in reply to 291796.6
Date: 1/11/2018 9:45:14 AM
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Busch's case is very interesting not so much because of his "aggressive" trait, but because, I really didn't spend to much time pondering on the possibility of seeing my center go out and try to contest outside shots, but then again, defensive breakdowns happen all the time in basketball, leading to unfavorable matchups that may result in something similar to what you experienced with Busch, especially when playing a zone. Even though the "aggressive" trait played such a huge role on defense when Busch would attempt to contest the opposing PG, how much of a role do you personal feel your OD rating on Busch played into Busch's untimely mishap during the game? Would you say his OD was a liability, in general, relative to his position?


I think partial blame could be placed on his SB more; I went back and checked the training log and this was game was right about the time I had just finished all the other training on the three stretch big men and was going back and adding shotblocking. He had 10 OD, which of course is not exceptional but he only had about a 5 in SB at the time, so he was good enough defensively to get out and make it a contested shot (the OD) but between the aggressiveness and the low SB, he'd probably block a lot of foreheads, not so many basketballs.

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291796.8 in reply to 291796.7
Date: 1/11/2018 2:42:40 PM
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I think partial blame could be placed on his SB more; I went back and checked the training log and this was game was right about the time I had just finished all the other training on the three stretch big men and was going back and adding shotblocking. He had 10 OD, which of course is not exceptional but he only had about a 5 in SB at the time, so he was good enough defensively to get out and make it a contested shot (the OD) but between the aggressiveness and the low SB, he'd probably block a lot of foreheads, not so many basketballs.


Ahh that a sensible explanation. Thank you.

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291796.10 in reply to 291796.9
Date: 1/17/2018 9:24:31 PM
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Thanks for the additional info Falke!