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18 - 19 year old training

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305530.5 in reply to 305530.4
Date: 7/24/2020 5:55:50 AM
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You should buy after the draft because there will be a lot of players available and you will be able to get superstar potential with good skills much cheaper than you would otherwise, maybe even a reasonable MVP with some luck. It's also best to wait for the draft because you will maximise the time the Youth Trainer will spend with them.

There is really no easy or difficult when it comes to training. Grab Coach Parrot (or training simulator), read the forums, plan and then enjoy the ride and the challenges that come with it. There are some obvious and logical concepts to this:

- you want all your trainees to benefit from training, so there is no point in having a 6'0'' and a 7'2'' trainee together when you train single position skills. Tall and short players will naturally be suited for different roles since guard skills train slowly for tall players and big men skills train slowly for short players. Equally, you will likely want players with reasonably close skills to one another: you don't want one C trainee with 1 IS and 7 ID and another with 7 IS and 1 ID, because they need to be trained differently

- as someone else suggested if you plan to train 1 on 1 for a season then in the short term you can have 5 or 6 players of varying height, since they will all receive good benefits from 1 on 1. In the long term however you will have to switch to single position training, meaning you will be able to train only 3 of them. At that time you have 2 scenarios: if you have 6 trainees of similar height, then you will keep the 3 that you like best and sell the others. If you have 6 of varying height then you should plan who to keep from the beginning, so that at least 3 of them are close enough to each other.

- if you go for Superstar potential for your 'main trainees' (the ones you are likely to keep when you start single position training) you'll be better off getting players 6'4'' to 6'9'' and training them to be SFs. These are the best value you can extract from their potential as you can train them to have 130 skills or so. For true big men Superstar potential is a problem because you'll hit the cap earlier and the primary skills may look a bit lacking. If you plan to train Cs you are better off with MVP potential and fewer starting skills

- the initial skill distribution is important and has value in itself (on top of the need for trainees not to have wildly different skillsets). This is because certain skills are not easy to train depending on the height of the player, therefore if those are high to begin with, you can be sure you will either have a player with superior secondary skills or you can spend more time training other skills that actually train faster. Classic example: 7 OD, 18yo 7'0''. On a 7'0'' player training OD is very painful and very slow, so starting from a higher value makes a big difference. So generally speaking you want the skills that are harded to train to be at a decent level (some guard skills for big men like OD and perhaps JR and some inside skills for guards like IS and ID). For SFs you may just go with the highest initial TSP, although even for SFs some skills are more important than others.

- there are guides for training from some U21 which may help you understand what's needed and how it works. Most countries have guides for the U21 and generally speaking you can ask U21 managers to help you out or seek a mentor if you prefer

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305530.6 in reply to 305530.5
Date: 7/24/2020 6:31:01 AM
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Some useful posts:
(144856.1) Never read this in full myself, but RiP is a great communicator and very knowledgeable, you can probably find anything you need to know in his guide

(140400.1) (127791.1) These are very old guides from some English manager from years ago, most of it is still valid, although GS has now been linked to ST

(291320.1)

Basically just google buzzerbeater topics you will find some threads with suggestion. Generally speaking the only no-brainer pointer is to train 1 on 1 first for any kind of player and definitely for guards and SFs, unless you are trying to do something unusual.

Other than that you need to use Coach Parrot or the Training Simulator, decide on a realistic final build (in line with the potential) for your trainees and plan in advance so that you get as close as possible to it.

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Date: 7/24/2020 7:55:05 AM
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So let's say for next season i come with this plan:

- Buying 5 trainees (small forward & power forward) 18 years with a potential of Perennial allstar - superstar
Those players i can train on 3 things (inside defence, jump shot & inside shot) because it's the 3 main attribute of all those players, so i could keep them for a good period of time! So training those 5 players for the short term future.

For the rest i would buy veterans for center - point guard & shooting guard, don't know how strong they'll be, but i'm not planning on paying giving money away on them as i will probably mainly play against bot teams.

on the trainees side i'll try to find small foward with already some outside defence & power forward with already some rebounding, as that is not a skill i'm planning to train in the near future but those are skills that are important in their position.

As of this season i've read that i'll probably need to upgrade my arena a lot as it is probably too small.

so how's that for a plan? doesn't seem that bad to me. Would be a team of 11 players, 2 for each position except the small or power forward, one of them will have 3 players!

think i'm gonna do this! Doesn't sound like a bad plan to start & learn the game!

for now i'll continue with the trainees i've bought without buying a youth trainer yet, as it's probably not worth the money, but for the time being i can learn from training them and see how i'll do it next season! I'll not buy veterans yet, as i don't really see the need for now! Prefer to start fresh next season!

Anyone has an opinion on this?
I have 2 question tho, how much should i spent on the trainees?
What is considered as a veteran player? a +30 player? or even older like 35+? or younger?


Last edited by Furyian at 7/24/2020 8:44:11 AM

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305530.9 in reply to 305530.8
Date: 7/24/2020 2:16:00 PM
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but if i understand it correctly? don't i choose as last in the draft because my team is 'first' atm? Or do botteams don't choose players?

Also, is close height to each other that important? Just asking, i'm a noob in this game! ^^

And really thanks for the answer!! Really good info!

Last edited by Furyian at 7/24/2020 2:16:32 PM

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305530.13 in reply to 305530.10
Date: 7/24/2020 2:57:02 PM
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ok interesting, should i put more money into the draft then? i've started with 7 points, and 0 scouting done? shall i put 2 points a week in it & discover more?

So height makes a massive difference in the learning of skills too? is it that big?

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305530.15 in reply to 305530.14
Date: 7/24/2020 4:19:06 PM
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Thx again! i've directly put 2 scouting points now!

ok interesting! Need to remember that! Anyway i'll join the discord! i can use every help i can get, probably gonna ask for a mentor aswell to answer my stupid questions! I need to learn ;)

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