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It really looks like test of our patience.
Why does it count attendance different way if there was no announcement of change of attendance formula?

And it still looks like there is a problem and bug is not fixed well.
Two teams of our league - BS Frydek and Flumpaci have nonsense attendance - much more lower than last season in regular season games for the same ticket prices (the both confirmed me they didn't change prices for December) even after lost.

Attendances in our league at Saturday matches (bold teams have Total capacity over 19k)
Flumpaci - 10489 (19) 1719 (70) 418 (200) 19 (1600) 12645 - Total income: $ 433 621
BK Psions - 16312 (18) 1928 (67) 401 (185) 21 (1500) 18662 - Total income: $ 528 477
Napálsko - 12085 (20) 1500 (70) 400 (200) 15 (1600) 14000 - Total income: $ 450 700 (sold out)
BS Frydek - 12450 (18) 1972 (65) 522 (175) 23 (1400) 14967 - Total income: $ 475 830
Wix twix - 11633 (20) 2277 (60) 370 (200) 27 (1250) 14307 - Total income: $ 477 030
Prague Towers - 13000 (20) 1400 (70) 380 (200) 15 (1600) 14795 - Total income: $ 458 000 (sold out)

BS Frydek made final (1st in regular season), Flumpaci and Napálsko semifinal (2nd in regular season), BK Psions quarter final (3rd in regular season), Wix twix was 5th and Prague Towers promotes from II. last season, so it really doesn't look everythink is allright.


And good comparision according to Superfly advise - attendance of Flumpaci in PL last Friday:
14880 (19) 1731 (70) 419 (200) 19 (1600) 17049 - Hypothetical total income: $ 518 090
Last season PL and league attendace looks very similar, but this is about 4400 bleachers difference.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 12/21/2009 11:33:32 AM

Please watch your tones rwystyrk and bik_76. This isn't the way we should communicate.

When posting in a public conference, you are expected to remain polite and refrain from either personal attacks or political discussions.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 12/21/2009 11:48:07 AM

What don't you like on my tone? I think I'm polite, no vulgary words, no personal attack, but constructive criticism underlaid by many facts.

Sorry, but two fixing of the bug and still not fixed well ... it's almost as bad as in software company I work for (but not as developer, so I don't fix bugs).

Last edited by rwystyrk at 12/21/2009 11:55:10 AM

I' ve got the same problem but I think there is no need of beeing upset. I believe people wish to be informed about this bug...so if you can give info on the main page when this bug is sorted out that would be the best. I really appreciate your work but maybe a bit of extra information would help.

Hold on!
After saturday game i started arena expansion, but right now when you change my attendance it haven't got any sense. So i wont my money back.

I want functional "my favourite game" only. This is periodic problem: start of season -> bug -> fix -> new bugs -> new fixs -> more new bugs -> ..... I recommend BB to all my friends, but I must stop now. BB is broken every 4 months, and I don´t want to listen to "what did you recommend, BB is ... ".
This is solve - GM will test all news, then lower number of secondary bugs occurs. Or somebody else, I think that here are managers which want to help BB without reward and have free time.

and for you: You are not my supplier, you didn´t gain my money, you have title only. You are allowed to ban me on forums. If you do so then: 1, I stop payment of BB + 2,no one continues with criticising of BB-mans work. Everything will look all right. Then (maybe) BB-mans continue with fixing and implementing news without testing. This leads that some other managers will fed-up too, but they will lazy to write on forums - they will not pay "only". And BB-mans will not have money to buy new servers, new licences, and will not have reason to continue. BB will die ....

No one said that criticism is not allowed.

We're asking politely that the rampant attitude be curbed.

[GM-Hat off] I don't like your overall tone in the forums, which is generally negative and you're always spot on to join complaints against whatever (f.e the game).

[GM-Hat on]While this is just my opinion, your posts are still in the margin of the alloweable, that's while all your posts are still here. I just wanted to make sure you didn't cross the line as your pal did ;)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 12/21/2009 2:38:53 PM

[GM-Hat off] I don't like your overall tone in the forums, which is generally negative and you're always spot on to join complaints against whatever (f.e the game).

:D Probably best joke I have heard recently. Only explanation for that is that you probably read only my messages on bug forum. What tone do you expect on bug forum? Something like "There is bug. That's wonderful, let it be ..." ?
And even in bug forum I usually start with huge amount of facts until I write about frustration about "fixing", because sometimes it's really difficult to persuade BB's there is real problem.

I don't understand what you meant by "f.e the game"? Game in meaning of match? I have never complained about lost in any match as many other managers did.

I'm very very sorry for you.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 12/22/2009 3:25:26 AM

To calm down the situation I would like you to write here one of these sentences:
In our opinion all the attendances are ok after last fix and we will not continue on investigating this problem any longer.
or
We are not sure if all the attendaces are ok and we will continue on investigating this problem.
I want to know that, because I'm not sure you mentioned that there have been still dissatisfied managers since last fix and there hasn't been any reaction of BB's since that.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 12/22/2009 5:03:32 AM