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196687.50 in reply to 196687.49
Date: 9/22/2011 12:03:48 PM
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Well, how old, how tall, and what are you training them in. All of those affect the speed at which they will improve.

What do you mean by "top level" trainer? World renowned?

How many pops have you gotten this season? What's your exact training schedule? Are you at times training guard skills, and at times training inside skills?

It's hard to help without this sort of info

EDIT - Sorry, my fault, all the ensuing discussion made me forget what started this whole thread. Besides, Indy Elite made a separate thread to ask for help.



Last edited by Tangosz at 9/22/2011 1:03:28 PM

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196687.51 in reply to 196687.44
Date: 9/22/2011 1:20:13 PM
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Salaries: hrudey: ~90k, your friend: ~160k

160 - 90 = 70

Take that 70k, multiply it by 14 weeks and you get 980,000 in savings for a season.


You don't even need to multiply it; just figure that to break even compared to me, he's got to average a 70k daytrade profit per week (plus probably another 10k/wk in merchandise difference), minus whatever our difference is in staff and arena. (well, and scouting to be precise, though I'm mostly just dumping money in that because I can and at some point I expect to end up somewhere where I lose a lot, hopefully coinciding with a promotion this season and a lot of 1pos training0.


From: GM-hrudey

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196687.53 in reply to 196687.52
Date: 9/22/2011 5:08:35 PM
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He hasn't been doing well trading lately. It takes time, you got to shop off hours and sell on.


As far as I know, it's probably pretty possible to do that anyhow, regardless of his individual situation. I was just pointing that out to make sure the proper reference points were being used -- just comparing my salary to his doesn't tell the whole story. ;)

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196687.55 in reply to 196687.53
Date: 9/22/2011 7:53:15 PM
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Train and sell. Build your stadium and move up. If your confident in what your doing the keep doing it. If it turns out to be bad then dump everything and start over. There's way more than one way to be good at this game. You just gotta find what works for you and stick to it.

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196687.57 in reply to 196687.56
Date: 9/22/2011 8:35:48 PM
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It was your comment that got the ball rolling:


Mistake#1
Thinking that training is possilbe at your level in the game. This is not really your fault. One would hope this game is set to reward you for training your own players...that really only happens in small nations where they have the finances or established teams taht bought pre created players at around 22. Its just the way they set this game up.

Mistake#2
Training JS. LOL. Most overrated skill around. WHy the heck to so many people come into this game and think pumping JS on all their players is gonna make them win? Its insanity.


As stated before, the first part is incorrect and the second half makes you sound like the euphemism for a donkey.


How about all the division III hopefulls (see not even Div.III yet) take a step back and a division II guy give osme advice?


Each of the D3 and D4 hopefuls you're referencing bent the ear of high division players and learned the ins and outs of the game before ever giving advice. And I'm not talking about high division users from countries with a user base smaller than 100. I mean high division users who have been successful in large countries.

Lack of experience is relative, anyway. Compared to other users on this forum, you lack a good deal of longevity as well. Add to this the size of your country and the division you started in, and the same argument can be made of you.....

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196687.58 in reply to 196687.48
Date: 9/22/2011 8:50:07 PM
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i believe that my great financial skills will enable me to make it through this period not in bankrupcuy


Honestly, you've screwed up your start so badly, you would be far better leaving for 6 weeks and then re-enrolling with a new team for season 18 where you can start fresh.

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196687.59 in reply to 196687.25
Date: 9/22/2011 9:49:14 PM
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If you are of the opinion that training works at that level, cool beans. I'm of the opinion that training takes a good upfront investment otherwise the players that are being trained are gonna drop of the radar interms of value. They'll be worth 1k at 30.


You must be kidding right? You can get any random three allstar or better potential 19 year olds with a $4-5,000 starting salary bought for $1 each and single position train them for four seasons till they cap. Without even having to train them as SFs but just making them solid combo guards with at least sensational OD, JS and PA they will be worth probably around a minimum of a million each. At age 30, probably about two thirds of that far from $1. In fact when I searched the TL just now for similar players I had to increase the age limit from 22 to 25 or under and still most of the players are more like worth about $2,000,000 each.

Turn 3 x 1k players into 3 x $1-2,000,000 players in four seasons seems like a good thing for a low level team to do.

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196687.60 in reply to 196687.59
Date: 9/22/2011 9:57:06 PM
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This thread makes my head hurt

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