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262742.50 in reply to 262742.49
Date: 11/4/2014 6:52:32 AM
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Surely an easy fix would be to make skills that are found in players playing in a specific slot cost more from one season to the next.

The problem is that for some skills this kind of regression cannot be done, since IS on guards doesn't really have any cost. It's also painfully clear that this kind of adjustment isn't done during the offseason even for skills that do go in the salary formula, otherwise OD by now would (in terms of salary) cost so much that very few teams would be able to afford 19+, while JR would be the by far the cheapest outside skill for guards.

If OD would cost 50% more than today and it was also slightly slower to train, while JR would cost 50% less and was slightly faster to train, people would still train so much OD over JR (or IS over SB for big men)? Perhaps not, it would be worth trying though, since this would not require a complete overhaul of the GE.

This is the kind of dynamic medium-long term balancing exercise that would ensure that the flaws in the GE are actually smoothened out automatically (i.e. OD is overpowered->everybody trains it->training speed goes down and salary contribution goes up slowly over time. At some point OD will still be overpowered as a standalone skill, but people will not find it that appealing to train it to extremely high levels, due to training speed reduction and salary cost).

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/4/2014 7:00:52 AM

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262742.53 in reply to 262742.51
Date: 11/4/2014 7:27:59 AM
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Yeah I know that, mate. I should have said 50% faster than it does today. Apologies.

I do agree with Nachtmahr, OD might be too overpowered but the main issue is on the user side.
Oh I do agree too. I'm just suggesting how you can make it beneficial and encourage different training plans.

Clearly such changes would need to be administrated in small amounts. You can't have a skill plan costing 100k today and 160K in 6 seasons (when the training of a player is mostly done). But 100k today and 160k in 18 seasons probably gives enough time to adjust tactics and plans accordingly. In fact a 1.5% max change per season would result in a 30% change in 20 seasons. Of course, that's assuming that the training of that skill would remain equally popular throughout 20 seasons of diminishing returns and increased costs.

If the change to OD was done in S10 can you imagine what would have happened in 19 seasons to S29? With 33% extra cost on OD, my PG would cost 80-85% extra salary, my SG about 75% extra. Probably I wouldn't have bought them in the first place.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/4/2014 7:54:02 AM

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262742.54 in reply to 262742.52
Date: 11/4/2014 7:34:06 AM
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Tell your friends. start a parade, soemthing. Maybe they'll fix it.
No parade needed. Changes done in small increments will amount to a reasonable amount over the course of 19 seasons. This would have been great game design if it was implemented as the game would autocorrect itself over time through salaries and training speed. Of course we'd need some clarity of how cost and training speed are modified in the offseason posts.

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262742.56 in reply to 262742.55
Date: 11/4/2014 8:26:10 AM
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We won't agree on any stuff. I know this for a couple of seasons now.
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Now the users, smart guys like Manon, are figuring out to use 3-2 to stop inside attacks, because that is how the GE is designed.

The one who told Manon about 3-2 + SB was me ;) I was the first one who started playing with SB 15+ guys and a 3-2 Zone. Manon tried it too and showed that he could compete pretty well on a higher level. So don't try to sell me stuff which comes originaly from me.

Last edited by Nachtmahr at 11/4/2014 8:26:52 AM

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262742.57 in reply to 262742.43
Date: 11/4/2014 10:41:02 AM
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why impossible?? they should have the ability to change it because they are the one who created it.

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