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From: JamesBond

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Date: 4/15/2011 6:39:57 PM
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Almost 4 seasons after,a post like yours is written..

I want what all men want...I just want it more.
From: Marot

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Date: 4/15/2011 9:27:16 PM
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You can find some posts from me when i was spanish DT coach at the end of season 12 saying how bad is to defend a LI with a 2-3, specially when we had to play against the best LI attack(in that moment was Itally).

This B3 most of the teams are done like this:

Mass OD in PG-SG-SF(using a PG or SG in SF position) and then 2 good inside players in PF-C to play LI.

And some others are exactly the same but playing with a real SF.


In other words, 2-3 'sux' there's an imbalance between defensive zones and inside box doesn't seem to fix it.


PD: As a manager next season i probably change to train only OD and play LI if nothing it's done.

PD2: I still think that DP throw this B3 when he played 2-3, he was going to win Hostivar with m2m for 5-10 points.

Last edited by Marot at 4/15/2011 9:27:33 PM

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Date: 4/15/2011 9:45:51 PM
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I knew this would happen eventually. Some small country team saving up tons of money and then sustaining salary monsters to win B3.

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Date: 4/16/2011 5:18:30 AM
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In reality there are really different situation on offensive tactics depending on the leagues that are split based on the economic possibilities of the teams

At low level,outside tactics are still clearly advantaged,because it's difficult to sustain big mans that can really do the difference,while guards with the same salary can dominate this kind of league

At medium level,generally guards and outside tactics are still the key to win,while you need to build a decent inside attack to surprise your adevrsary when the fight among the guards is close

At high level,it's more about the way the single teams are built and the strength of the players that really the kind of tactic used,becuse the level of the players allow the teams to use almost all the tactics with good results
The fact that you can find top class big man at really ridicoulous prices,means that the teams that are fighting for B3/cup can become stronger in an easier and cheaper way buying big mans,so LI became very powerful in this kind of competitions,but more because of market situation that really because of a better efficiency of this tactic.In addition,there isn't a specific defence for inside tactics that actually works,so we are seeing the incredible situation where in B3 the best teams use LI,while a large part of the world find more efficient to play with outside tactics

P.S. In Nts the speech is different because generally these players have great secondary skills,so the coach play more on that and on TS and GS than on any other thing

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Date: 4/16/2011 9:26:11 AM
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After I've rading many times your post,my question to you is:what's your point here?
Excluding your speech on midlevel leagues,that you really can't know because of the low number of teams in your country(These (32476605) (32476606) are my relegation games in III division,a midlevel division in a large country),I think all come down to the argument you mentioned in the post

The prices of players on the TL is directly a product of cost effectiveness of the skills in relation to the salary. Thats what people look at- how effective is that player for how much I have to pay them each week. the more effective the more they pump into that initial buy price.

It all boils down to the GE and salary by skill. Tweaks in salary-skill and GE skill effectiveness/usefullness will/can open up more strategies. More strategies will open up a variety of types of effective players (not just ONE type of good player for each position which we have now) this will lead to variety of training regimens (in terms of effective profitable ones) and variety in the types of teams poeple build. So instead of eveyrone after teh same palyers/types of players at the top level you will find different teams with different approaches. I think variety in how peopels teams are built will make the game much much more interesting, and will make eveyr aspect of the game more interesting.

The point here is that the situation is at opposite side.At the top level you can find teams with different approaches,because they reach a level where the difference are lower among the players and details became essentials,here you have to refine your teams and open up to new strategies.Where you are at lower level,the gap among the teams is really larger and if you are in disadvantage and want to survive,you need to go with more tested tactics,and salary-wise outside tactics with actual GE are less difficult to understand,handle and you know better how to train players

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