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204205.51 in reply to 204205.49
Date: 1/4/2012 6:32:00 AM
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you forgot to mention, that the game didn't changed the last seasons, and when this is implemented next season there ain't other teams in those league then younger ones ;)
Have no clue what you are trying to say.

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204205.52 in reply to 204205.50
Date: 1/4/2012 7:01:37 AM
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In three of the largest BB-nations, who consists of 1/4 of all BB-nation (France, Spain and Italy) there is not a single team at the first division who had joined later than season 4!!!


If that is true that is a really damming stat. Wow.


there are many big nation who show something else, but beeing there is staying there isn't true anymore. First season, the income/salary configuration in those league was a joke, so that you could stay there quite easy... But what Pini forget in the stats, that this game made some big changes in the past, and also the player level increased nearly every season up to this point, so that his claim that all teams up there earn money every week is simply wrong then in average i believe we lost money since a while.
Basicalty you are trying to play with the numbers and mix him with the stats, but they are not one that can be mistaken upon.

1)
Many nations that show something else.

a) Which?
b) How many users they include?
c) Where those old users went? I'm betting that (as already written), that they just got bored and left the game or the division in order of realy experiencing BB-managing.
This had been said to be true by a user before.

d) And that is the main argument here - WHY those three hugh nations has such a portfolio that cannot be mistaken for.
It seems that you are going around the bush to ignore this fact.

2)
i believe we lost money since a while

a) Each user's team is the biggest asset one has.
You did not lost money if you imroved your roster.
b) If that was the case, than new users whould have catch your place in the first division, as money buy players.

3) Remind us on which season did you joined the game?

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204205.53 in reply to 204205.52
Date: 1/4/2012 7:09:46 AM
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How does answering question 3) add to the discussion?

Let me rephrase -

4) Pini, remind us, to fend of the point that you´re just jealous and impatient, which season did you join the game?

And funny you´re still quoting selective stats. By saying "in three of the largest BB-nations" you mean "in the other large nations, this is not the case", right?

Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, die Dummheit und das All...
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204205.54 in reply to 204205.52
Date: 1/4/2012 7:14:20 AM
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a) Which?
b) How many users they include?
c) Where those old users went? I'm betting that (as already written), that they just got bored and left the game or the division in order of realy experiencing BB-managing.
This had been said to be true by a user before.


you forgot the reply of the BB to that already, mostly all other bigger nations.


a) Each user's team is the biggest asset one has.
You did not lost money if you imroved your roster.
b) If that was the case, than new users whould have catch your place in the first division, as money buy players.


as you stated my team get older, which means my player also lost value. Also the salary paid is lost money for me, and that eaten up the income from the bigger arenas ;) And training high skilled player in the market also don't increase the value.

3) Remind us on which season did you joined the game?


end of season two or 3. And remind me when i said that we need to reduce the income of div 1 teams*, i stated that pretty often at least to season 12. So maybe i can not only see basic, economical relation maybe i even have experience with that game.

*That had probadly to do with my egoistic approach to the game, as you will explain me soon ;)


Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/4/2012 7:16:53 AM

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204205.55 in reply to 204205.53
Date: 1/4/2012 10:41:09 AM
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How does answering question 3) add to the discussion?

Let me rephrase -

4) Pini, remind us, to fend of the point that you´re just jealous and impatient, which season did you join the game?

And funny you´re still quoting selective stats. By saying "in three of the largest BB-nations" you mean "in the other large nations, this is not the case", right?
I was totally "shocked" to see that you tried to throw the ball away, as you know that he joined on Season 2!!!

You are a Season-6 team that only now got to the second division for the first time.
This proves what I've already written - starting early on this game does not make you an high division team. You also need to be a decent BB-manager.
But being a good BB-manager will not help you getting to the first division in case there are decent BB-managers who just started earlier, and who enjoys the eBay-game.

It was "amazing" to see that you have no answer to the fact about this three huge BB-nations.
You are welcome to go over all other BB-nations, and find out this stats, but for you to prove your point you will need also to give information what have happened to those who started prior season-4, and how much had been prior that season comparing current number.
I'm not sure that you are mentally able to do that.

I've started at the end of season-15, and I'm on my way to get to Div-2 on this season or the next.
But, that just not add anything to the conversation, and is just a try to turn eyes from the facts

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204205.56 in reply to 204205.55
Date: 1/4/2012 11:13:23 AM
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It was "amazing" to see that you have no answer to the fact about this three huge BB-nations.
You are welcome to go over all other BB-nations, and find out this stats, but for you to prove your point you will need also to give information what have happened to those who started prior season-4, and how much had been prior that season comparing current number.
I'm not sure that you are mentally able to do that.


why he shoul do that, in case he is doing it, you will read it and instantly forget it like the time this was done before.

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204205.57 in reply to 204205.54
Date: 1/4/2012 11:19:47 AM
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a) Which?
b) How many users they include?
c) Where those old users went? I'm betting that (as already written), that they just got bored and left the game or the division in order of realy experiencing BB-managing.
This had been said to be true by a user before.


you forgot the reply of the BB to that already, mostly all other bigger nations.

NO, not all other BB nation has teams that are post season-4.

In addition, that did not answer what have happened to all other Prior-Season-4 teams on those nations you are giving as an example.
The answer will be one of the following (and I have seen that on some of the nations, but it took to much time):
A) They have left the game (just got bored) to play eBay on this division.
B) They have tanked to lower league to really play BB-managing game (and that we have heard here on this Suggestions Forum).
C) He was a really bad manager, and wasting money and mistakes is something that can easily be done.


a) Each user's team is the biggest asset one has.
You did not lost money if you improved your roster.
b) If that was the case, than new users would have catch your place in the first division, as money buy players.
as you stated my team get older, which means my player also lost value. Also the salary paid is lost money for me, and that eaten up the income from the bigger arenas ;) And training high skilled player in the market also don't increase the value.

That made me look at your TH.
Well well, what a "surprise"...
1) You are a day trader.
2) Most of your players that had been recently sold, had been sold for more money than had been purchased. WOW, AMAZING...
How that sits with your "TRUE" information about your player value only declining? Or maybe you are trying to raise a fund for the DIV-1 teams...

3) Remind us on which season did you joined the game?

end of season two or 3. And remind me when i said that we need to reduce the income of div 1 teams*, i stated that pretty often at least to season 12. So maybe i can not only see basic, economical relation maybe i even have experience with that game.
*That had probably to do with my egoistic approach to the game, as you will explain me soon ;)
On that you are right.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/4/2012 11:21:55 AM

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204205.58 in reply to 204205.56
Date: 1/4/2012 11:39:32 AM
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It had never been done.

The only information that had been brought back then was about SEVERAL nations who do consists teams that had been created post season-4 on that nation's DIV-1 league, but W/O all other information that would have proven the WHY.

Here is an example of the German DIV-1 league:
Big-8:
A single team that had been created post season-4.
When was it created? Season-5. Those "newbies"...
Which place are they? SIX out of eight!!!
Who are those two that are below them?
1) A team that seems to leave the game or try to tank to a lower league. This can be seen upon that team result on this season.
A team who is easily beaten each game on the league.
2) A team that seems to throw this season, but will be the one who will probably win the delegation series between those two.

Great-8:
NONE, GURNISHT, NADA.
Not a single team who had joined BB post season-4.
Now I understand why you are fighting to keep it this way...

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/4/2012 11:40:31 AM

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204205.59 in reply to 204205.57
Date: 1/4/2012 11:43:44 AM
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That made me look at your TH.
Well well, what a "surprise"...
1) You are a day trader.
2) Most of your players that had been recently sold, had been sold for more money than had been purchased. WOW, AMAZING...

even when this might be true, even when i feel offended by this statement a bit. Since i just sell some minutes fillers from time to time or spare time trainees, which i try buy cheap which made up for total 2 transfer this season.
What does this add up to this topic? Did you want to underline that i didn't understand the market, nromally traders should know them right?

How that sits with your "TRUE" information about your player value only declining? Or maybe you are trying to raise a fund for the DIV-1 teams...


http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/4587237/history.aspx

i am unsure how i should i explain that otherwise, especially when i am so good in buying cheap and sell for the maximum price ;) Probadly 800k is more then 2,2 Mio. ordid you didn't noticed my last transfer when you check my team transfers up?

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204205.60 in reply to 204205.59
Date: 1/4/2012 2:33:51 PM
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1) A single, and not a representative example for your TH, does not prove anything close to what you are claiming. Just the opposite.

2) If you and the rest of DIV-1 teams are so miserable and poor, like the false picture you are trying to draw, how does your league consist of a single user who joined later than season-4, and even he joined only a single season afterwards (and probably will be delegated at the end of this year).

3) All this explains (at least in my eyes) why you are supporting the current auction system and how much what you have written sounds (at least to me) as a lie that hides the real true that it assists you as a day-trader.

4) All this explains (at least to me) why you don't "see" how the assets are being piled up, and the game has a competitiveness problem due to that.
A fact that can easily be observed at your own BB-nation.

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204205.61 in reply to 204205.60
Date: 1/4/2012 2:50:29 PM
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i believe we are pretty far from the topic right now, so let us stop this here.(also since we reach a dead point too)

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