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Draft players must be on the payroll for their first years

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204273.51 in reply to 204273.50
Date: 12/11/2011 4:10:02 PM
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NBA is drafting 60 players, that are the best of their class (to be honest, second round hardly sees any NBA action). We are drafting 154416 players + bot team drafts. You want them all to be NBA level?

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Date: 12/11/2011 4:40:56 PM
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no bb managers don't deal with it, they trade peaces they don't want ... And basically have quite a effective training method, at least not worse then lower leagues games, even when you could say that player basically don't change. But honestly, to kill training for all and give top leagues teams better draft would be a game killer.

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Date: 12/11/2011 5:26:00 PM
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Pini, you´re still wrong.

NBA teams don´t have to sign their first rounders. Plenty NBA teams don´t. And you keep telling us the opposite.

Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, die Dummheit und das All...
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Date: 12/11/2011 5:28:42 PM
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NBA is drafting 60 players, that are the best of their class (to be honest, second round hardly sees any NBA action). We are drafting 154416 players + bot team drafts. You want them all to be NBA level?
The amount is not relevant.
As much there are more teams in this game comparing to the NBA, there are also more "collegue" teams supplying players in this game.

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Date: 12/11/2011 5:38:22 PM
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But honestly, to kill training for all and give top leagues teams better draft would be a game killer.
This was not part of this suggestion, but as you've brought it up, I decide to answer it. Again.

Higher leagues will get more prepared guys, but to balance that they're drafted players may:
1) Be payed much more than they should have,

2) Will have slower training. Meaning, that they will need more training time to get to the next level comparing to a lower league team with the same player at hand.

3) All of the above, or anything else...

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204273.56 in reply to 204273.53
Date: 12/11/2011 5:39:32 PM
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Pini, you´re still wrong.

NBA teams don´t have to sign their first rounders. Plenty NBA teams don´t. And you keep telling us the opposite.
And still you are not able to bring a single example... Do you really expect any to believe that?

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204273.57 in reply to 204273.55
Date: 12/11/2011 5:42:32 PM
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i answered that this was the solution for it, and so it is part of this suggestion ;) And i said you the disadvantages of it, and i said why this wouldn't be close to good.

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Date: 12/11/2011 6:59:06 PM
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Show me the rule you keep telling us about. The "Player Option" as you call it.

Show me a single three legged pink elephant drafted by any NBA team that has NOT signed a contract without going to Europe or falling into a wormhole. If you can´t, there has to be a rule, that all pink elephants that a drafted by an NBA team have to be signed on a max scale 5 year contract immediately. <- your kind of proof.

http://shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/draftpickcapholds.jsp

If they are not signed, they count against the cap, but they are not paid.

And here´s all the list that you want:

http://shamsports.com/content/pages/data/draft/unsigneddraftpicks.jsp

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 12/11/2011 7:17:09 PM

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204273.59 in reply to 204273.54
Date: 12/11/2011 8:25:00 PM
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By Pini logic, we should push all those teams into one league, because there are no countrys in the NBA. 25000 teams east and 25000 teams west. Have seasons of 74998 games per team. Because that would be like in the NBA. That's the Pini way of handleing things.
There have been so many facts against you, but you still keep barking the same tree. I think you need some medical assistance to confirm your diagnose, meanwhile you could take the "out of the forums" pill (also known as the blue pill). The suggestion forum story ends. You wake up in your bed and you believe what you want to believe. You don't have to stress your peanutbrain with the complicated BuzzerBeater game mechanics. Everyone is happy.

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204273.60 in reply to 204273.56
Date: 12/12/2011 8:45:21 AM
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Pini I am not saying that all of your ideas are bad but this one is so drop it and move on.

First round NBA players also get guaranteed four year contracts so should we do that?

You say that teams have to pay their players but there are at least three ways around that.

1) Any team can actually forefit their pick, I don't know if anyone ever has in the first round as those players are usually good enough to take a risk on but it is in the rules to help teams that are already at their roster maximum.

2) Teams can trade away their picks. It is very simple to swap my minumum salary BWS for another teams BWS and throw in my draft pick.

3) Teams can waive players. This is often done but teams are still liable for the player's salary but it does free up a roster space and if the player picks up a new contract however much they are paid under their new contract comes off their old contract.

From: yodabig

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204273.61 in reply to 204273.60
Date: 12/12/2011 8:53:16 AM
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This is a reprint of what I said in another thread. I think the draft system is fine as it is it doesn't need major rule changes just changes to the numbers. Lots of players would be happy to train their own draft pick but the current system is so stingy towards useful talent that you have to be a lottery winner to get anyone useful.

The problem is simply the ratios are wrong at the moment.

This is wild speculation based on my observations only in India (where I have studied every draft for the last few seasons) and Australia but the current breakdown is something like this.

announcer 2/48
bench warmer 6/48
role player 6/48
6th man 6/48
starter 6/48
star 6/48
allstar 6/48
perennial allstar 5/48
superstar 3/48
MVP 2/48
hall of famer 1/100
all-time great 1/1000

Consdiering that all players with potential of announcer to starter are really just varying degrees of useless that all get fired within a week of the draft there is half the draft gone already. Then consider the one or two MVPs you get in the draft can be a $2,000 salary 18 year old and a $4,000 19 year old 7'0" PG with atrocious ID and IS then you can start to see how few useful players we really get per draft. The figure of 10% has been often raised and I think that is a good ballpark figure.

I would suggest a MUCH better distribution of potential would be something like

announcer 2/48
bench warmer 2/48
role player 2/48
6th man 2/48
starter 2/48
star 10/48
allstar 10/48
perennial allstar 10/48
superstar 6/48
MVP 2/48
hall of famer 1/100
all-time great 1/1000

So no change to the top three potentials at all but a lot more players that can be trained and at least become useful players in decent leagues.

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