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93604.512 in reply to 93604.511
Date: 8/1/2009 6:06:06 PM
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In this case you will never see where and when change your players cause you will never know if you've lost due to random or because your players are really weaker than the others.
Shockingly, quite a number of teams seems to manage this quite fine.

As I've written somewhere the zone defense should have relevance in the final result of a match, soon everyone will play m2m...
Playing a zone defense is used to boost defensive skills, not to compensate for their complete absence.

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93604.513 in reply to 93604.512
Date: 8/1/2009 7:10:22 PM
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Furthermore, if you play a zone, whatever defense you're adding to the defended sector is lost plus some in the other sector.

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93604.514 in reply to 93604.509
Date: 8/1/2009 8:41:27 PM
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one of the reason you lost the match was your play maker K. Brunner, 18 years old, he play 48 min 16 points, 6,5 valor, he had really low defense, you play man to man, your player salary 4K your oponent 11K, your player 16 points, your rival 29 points. You set a 4 good starter, and the 18 year old. have a look to P. Varano he played 13 min 1 point 6,5 valor, R. Jurkus played 14 min 0 points 7,5 valor.

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93604.515 in reply to 93604.496
Date: 8/1/2009 8:52:48 PM
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When you play tie vs normal, you risk a lot, but you could win the match if you play at home and with good players and good tactic, have a look your Center N. Serracant 45 min, 0 points, 6,5 valor a 4K player vs 23K player (your oponent player), when you risk twice not its the double risk...

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93604.516 in reply to 93604.512
Date: 8/2/2009 3:22:17 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Please can you tell me your idea of defensive skills? Write me a number that the players should have of OD and ID, thanks ;)

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93604.517 in reply to 93604.516
Date: 8/2/2009 2:58:07 PM
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Please can you tell me your idea of defensive skills? Write me a number that the players should have of OD and ID, thanks ;)

As much as you can afford. You're welcome.

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93604.518 in reply to 93604.517
Date: 8/2/2009 3:56:20 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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Ok, so please don't say that zone defense boost the defense if you don't have idea about the minimum skill that you need to stop your opponent. We can also say that someone has lost cause he scored 1 basket less but this cannot help to understand anything don't you think?
Ps. No need to answer to my question :p

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93604.519 in reply to 93604.518
Date: 8/2/2009 4:07:52 PM
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Ok, so please don't say that zone defense boost the defense if you don't have idea about the minimum skill that you need to stop your opponent.

I have a pretty good idea. Do you?

This game is full of teams who field strong offenses and mediocre defenses and wonder why they lost. Well, it doesn't really matter much what zone you're going to use in this case.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/2/2009 4:08:11 PM

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93604.520 in reply to 93604.519
Date: 8/2/2009 6:42:19 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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The best idea imho

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93604.521 in reply to 93604.507
Date: 8/4/2009 10:35:52 AM
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I am not criticizing this new GE, just trying to understand


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There's def some bizarre stuff going on. The most confusing part is trying to reconcile why the team ratings and matchup ratings appear to be telling opposite stories. I know it's best to look at them both in unison, but they're so far apart I have to wonder if team ratings are better to ignore.

Also, it does seem that guards are taking a lot of shots for teams playing inside. I've noticed this even when the pf/c have high PP100 ratings.

Last edited by brian at 8/4/2009 10:38:30 AM

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93604.522 in reply to 93604.521
Date: 8/4/2009 3:06:18 PM
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I am not criticizing this new GE, just trying to understand


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There's def some bizarre stuff going on. The most confusing part is trying to reconcile why the team ratings and matchup ratings appear to be telling opposite stories. I know it's best to look at them both in unison, but they're so far apart I have to wonder if team ratings are better to ignore.

Also, it does seem that guards are taking a lot of shots for teams playing inside. I've noticed this even when the pf/c have high PP100 ratings.

There is more to reading a boxscore than blindly comparing team ratings and PP100 values.

The outside attacking team has superb PP100 against putrid outside defense. The inside attacking team has ok ratings against a solid inside defense, though notice that the prolific ID has driven about 70% of the shots the Goats have taken into the perimeter, where their attack is worse.

You should remember that the GE is looking for the best shot on each possession, and they only managed to find a good shot inside on 25% of their total shots. That's god-awful. On the other hand, Chicago shot close to 50% of their shots through their strongest PP100 (PG/SF).

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/4/2009 3:10:46 PM

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