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thanks maybe i will try to get some player then ....i dont want to buy players because i still dont want to pay big salaries ...but if i will pay the money its good idea not to pay for nothing very bad rule for me since i am not sure how to be stable financially...

Yes, you might be able to find a player with a $30-40k salary but a very low transfer fee, which would be a nice pickup for your situation. Or maybe 2-3 players with $10k salary and close to $0 transfer fee.

If you are only paying the salary floor you should be able to make a good profit each week. Make sure you aren't paying too much in staff salaries, and continue expanding your arena when you have savings.

I agree you may have some financial instability. That would likely be due to not working on your arena. However, if you have not been spending money on players, and not improving your arena, where were you spending money? Having 24 weeks to be under the salary floor should have given you the opportunity to improve your arena.

Honestly I wish BB would actually stress on the importance of arena building in its tutorial or something. I literally come across a lot of people who don't build their arenas, then get promoted to Div I and wonder why they are forever in the red (650k salary floor btw, how is a 6k seated arena going to survive that).

Over the seasons I've noticed a lot of teams in my div going bot, and quite a few of them not upgrading their team despite promoting (or still having a bad team by the end of the season), and it never occured to me (until last season when a relegation boind leaguemate asked me for financial advice) tthat it was likely due to the fact that the salary floor difference between Div II and Div I was too big and they didn't need to expand their arena to sustain a Div II winning team.

The new "reset team" function has sort of decreased the impact, but still, more emphasis is needed on arena building coz we can't have them keep resetting their teams. I've been approaching new teams in my country to raise awareness on the importance of arena building, and turns out a lot of them didn't realize how important arena expansion is.

nobody say to you that you have to build the arena exactly :) now you say it ....but i thought that i can change the price of tickets to maximum and then if the arena is full to build again :) last days i spent 600k on stuff for example because i wanted at least 5 level coach since my trainees are already 20yo and maybe its possible to be u21 NT ...also, i bought 2 good bulgarian players for 600k.... once i built the arena and it was very expensive but maybe it was mistake to make VIP places :) also i have all kind of stuff and i pay 100k each week and i am not sure if i need all kind of stuff or not ...for example the dietary guy is under question .....my finances now are 162k and i cannot build bigger arena with this money ...ok, now after your opinion i understand that its most important at this level of my club to build arena but i dont know with this floor if i will be able to save money and how much

i have 100k salaries for all the staff which i think is good because i optimized it a lot last days :) but i spent 600k for buying staff... maybe it was better idea to invest in arena but i didnt know until now its so important :) i will try to buy a player if its not too expensive but i think i can win matches even with my players at the moment if i make better tactics but for now i will try to win some Cup matches and thats why i lost yesterday because i am not sure how much fatigue etc will be from 3 matches ....i hope i can make some savings but i am not sure about that since everything is expensive nowadays

nobody say to you that you have to build the arena exactly now you say it ....but i thought that i can change the price of tickets to maximum and then if the arena is full to build again

Just so you are aware, the price/attendance is non-linear.
So for example if you have a ticket price at $20 and get 1,000 people, if it was linear then at $10 you would expect 2,000 people ($20k revenue either way).
However in BB at $10 you might expect 4,000 people ($40k revenue). Note I don't know the exact %, this is just an example.

So there's a lot of benefit to expanding the arena even if your tickets aren't at full price.

ast days i spent 600k on stuff for example because i wanted at least 5 level coach since my trainees are already 20yo and maybe its possible to be u21 NT ...also, i bought 2 good bulgarian players for 600k.... once i built the arena and it was very expensive but maybe it was mistake to make VIP places also i have all kind of stuff and i pay 100k each week and i am not sure if i need all kind of stuff or not ...for example the dietary guy is under question

Yeah it's fine to spend some money if you have good NT/U21 prospects or a long-term player for your own team. It's unlikely the diet/nutritionist is worth it, but it depends on their salary, how much you want to spend, what the U21 coach thinks and so on.

i have 100k salaries for all the staff which i think is good because i optimized it a lot last days but i spent 600k for buying staff... i hope i can make some savings but i am not sure about that since everything is expensive nowadays

$100k is a lot for staff, even for an U21 prospect. So if in a couple of weeks you're still stuck financially I would review that to see if you could make savings.

Without looking at your actual economy I suspect you will be ok. As I said when paying the salary floor it's usually quite easy to make money, and at the start of the season you also get money for winning BBM and cup games. In a few weeks your economy will likely look better.

thanks
ok, i will try to optimize the ticket price ;)
we are now voting for coach so after that i will see his opinion for my players and decide more things about the staff... i also think the finance will be better because only my PR 7th level was 50k salary each week :) also, i spent 40k every week for draft because i had 1st choice but i am not so happy with the players so i will not make the same mistake and now i am paying 10k.... so without the salary floor the things would be a lot optimized ...but now with the floor its not so much :P but anyway i think i will collect something and now i am trying to buy some players with 10k+ salary to win more games... and i will wait for the arena then ....when i make the arena 20k people, then i will spend maybe for other things like gym, medical center or something
but it was a mistake not building arena first which would guarantee financial stability

I would advise you to sack that PR guy ._.

You've got a small arena, your players' salaries are so low, and you're in Div III. You would probably have 40k more net income a week if you sacked him and kept a level 1 PR. The main purpose of a PR manager is to earn you more money, but you are currently paying him more than the extra revenue he can earn you. That's not a very good business decision IMO.

thanks ...i have now another PR which is 15k 4level ..do you think its still too much?! maybe i can try level 1...

I personally just use a level 1.

Apparently according to threads I've come across in this forum, the biggest effect of the PR manager is reducing the decrease in attendance after you lose a big game (like losing to a rival or losing a TV game). But a quick look at the numbers makes me wonder if it's necessary - my game against the #2 team in the other conference had similar numbers to the #3 team in mine (and the former has a higher national rank). But I actually won the away game before the game against the #2 team, while I lost against my league rival (by 19 points too) just before the game against the #3 ranked team... The difference between both games was $3k (501k vs 498k). If I can achieve that with a level 1 staff, I don't think even bother getting anything more than that is necessary to combat the drop in revenue (I'm in Div I with a 22k pax arena btw).

Another effect I've read of is combating the loss of attendance when you relegate. I don't have numbers to back that up but if it's effective then you only need to hire one if you ever relegate.

That said, according to this thread, it seems that aside from specialty, it seems that it's not necessary to get anything higher than level 3: (316991.1).

Still, my personal opinion is to just use level 1 unless you need one with specialty. If you do then it seems like you should go no higher than level 3.

ok, thanks :) maybe i will change my PR since i already lost my rival match in the 1st round in the league so he will not help me much :) i bought some players because of the salary floor after 2 days so i think i will win easily most of the matches and i will not need so much pr...