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From: GM-Zuper

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93604.515 in reply to 93604.496
Date: 8/1/2009 8:52:48 PM
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When you play tie vs normal, you risk a lot, but you could win the match if you play at home and with good players and good tactic, have a look your Center N. Serracant 45 min, 0 points, 6,5 valor a 4K player vs 23K player (your oponent player), when you risk twice not its the double risk...

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93604.516 in reply to 93604.512
Date: 8/2/2009 3:22:17 AM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Please can you tell me your idea of defensive skills? Write me a number that the players should have of OD and ID, thanks ;)

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93604.517 in reply to 93604.516
Date: 8/2/2009 2:58:07 PM
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Please can you tell me your idea of defensive skills? Write me a number that the players should have of OD and ID, thanks ;)

As much as you can afford. You're welcome.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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93604.518 in reply to 93604.517
Date: 8/2/2009 3:56:20 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
Ok, so please don't say that zone defense boost the defense if you don't have idea about the minimum skill that you need to stop your opponent. We can also say that someone has lost cause he scored 1 basket less but this cannot help to understand anything don't you think?
Ps. No need to answer to my question :p

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93604.519 in reply to 93604.518
Date: 8/2/2009 4:07:52 PM
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Ok, so please don't say that zone defense boost the defense if you don't have idea about the minimum skill that you need to stop your opponent.

I have a pretty good idea. Do you?

This game is full of teams who field strong offenses and mediocre defenses and wonder why they lost. Well, it doesn't really matter much what zone you're going to use in this case.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/2/2009 4:08:11 PM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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93604.520 in reply to 93604.519
Date: 8/2/2009 6:42:19 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Second Team:
Slaytanic
The best idea imho

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From: brian

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93604.521 in reply to 93604.507
Date: 8/4/2009 10:35:52 AM
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I am not criticizing this new GE, just trying to understand


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There's def some bizarre stuff going on. The most confusing part is trying to reconcile why the team ratings and matchup ratings appear to be telling opposite stories. I know it's best to look at them both in unison, but they're so far apart I have to wonder if team ratings are better to ignore.

Also, it does seem that guards are taking a lot of shots for teams playing inside. I've noticed this even when the pf/c have high PP100 ratings.

Last edited by brian at 8/4/2009 10:38:30 AM

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93604.522 in reply to 93604.521
Date: 8/4/2009 3:06:18 PM
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I am not criticizing this new GE, just trying to understand


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There's def some bizarre stuff going on. The most confusing part is trying to reconcile why the team ratings and matchup ratings appear to be telling opposite stories. I know it's best to look at them both in unison, but they're so far apart I have to wonder if team ratings are better to ignore.

Also, it does seem that guards are taking a lot of shots for teams playing inside. I've noticed this even when the pf/c have high PP100 ratings.

There is more to reading a boxscore than blindly comparing team ratings and PP100 values.

The outside attacking team has superb PP100 against putrid outside defense. The inside attacking team has ok ratings against a solid inside defense, though notice that the prolific ID has driven about 70% of the shots the Goats have taken into the perimeter, where their attack is worse.

You should remember that the GE is looking for the best shot on each possession, and they only managed to find a good shot inside on 25% of their total shots. That's god-awful. On the other hand, Chicago shot close to 50% of their shots through their strongest PP100 (PG/SF).

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/4/2009 3:10:46 PM

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93604.523 in reply to 93604.522
Date: 8/4/2009 3:55:18 PM
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There is more to reading a boxscore than blindly comparing team ratings and PP100 values.


All in all my point is that even for someone that has alot of experience with this game it really hard to imagine how this game managed to go into overtime. Thanks for all the elementary detail though, that was fun.

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93604.524 in reply to 93604.523
Date: 8/4/2009 4:02:21 PM
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There is more to reading a boxscore than blindly comparing team ratings and PP100 values.


All in all my point is that even for someone that has alot of experience with this game it really hard to imagine how this game managed to go into overtime. Thanks for all the elementary detail though, that was fun.

Your point wasn't exactly clear from your post, so I guess it could have been anything. Especially given that I couldn't see any evidence of PP100 and team ratings telling a different story -- so maybe you can enlighten the unexperienced me?

All in all, however, the right team won by 12, so I don't see any problems with this game.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/4/2009 4:04:10 PM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 8/4/2009 4:10:09 PM
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All in all, however, the right team won by 12, so I don't see any problems with this game.


Kinda, they won by 12 in OT.

I understand there should be a random factor to a GE and in the past (in which case it's possible been understated).

In this case, the home team was the stronger team, nailed the tactics, and was better at distributing more shots to the highest efficiency players. Should have been a blowout barring some major discrepincies in rebounds, fouls, free throws, blocks, etc., which there wasn't.

This was either a rare case of extreme random factor or there's something that's missing from what can be explained by the box score. Since this is a new GE I'm curious its the latter, esp in light of the rarity of this type of upset in the past.

Last edited by brian at 8/4/2009 4:12:03 PM

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