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From: zyler

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Date: 9/4/2010 4:51:19 PM
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you need to be selling out all 8450 seats at above 40 a seat to match the effectiveness of the bleachers model

From: lawman

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Date: 9/4/2010 11:57:37 PM
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but since he's already got them built...
$625000 against the worst team in his division seems pretty decent though?

I do agree that without them built, it would seem the cheaper mode is bleacher mode. But LT seem to have some decent long-term advantages....i mean if we really ignore the payback terms.

he is still 1/2 in his country. And with them built I see a slight advantage - that at that level may me something? I don't know.

From: zyler

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his not an an advantage though. his salary cap will always be lower then teams with the bleachers model , which is what this whole discussion has been about , not about the starting building costs.

Last edited by zyler at 9/5/2010 2:55:07 AM

From: Fresh24

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Date: 9/5/2010 7:49:52 AM
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The problem is he has to set his lower tier prices a lot lower to sell out (in this case ~$30), whereas someone who has more bleachers and fewer lower tier seats can set their prices a lot higher (up to $70) and still sell out, and sell out their ~$20 bleacher seats as well.

I haven't done the math, but at first glance it seems zyler's math is correct in saying if you can still sell out ~8000 lower tier seats at $40, compared to someone else is selling only 4000 lower tier seats but at $70, and the rest as bleachers at $20, then only are you making more money per game. Hope this helped and didn't confuse people even more.

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Date: 9/5/2010 8:39:22 AM
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i at east don't get enough 20$ visitors to sell out 20k ;)

From: ClipCap

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Date: 9/5/2010 9:39:01 AM
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I have recently turned my attention to the math of building my arena correctly & this post has been an interesting read.
I've looked at the top teams & they seem to have built over the 20k mark to allow for max money on Cup & B3 games. I have a configurtaion of my own based on what BC Torooo, Esv Liam & Shaq Attack have done, with attendence, & based on math for higher ticket prices to save on building larger stadium, expenses. I would love your or anyone else input.
This is what I am aiming for:
Bleachers 15010 $19
Lower Tier 4400 $45
Courtside: 500 $185
Boxes 40 $975

Total Capacity: "19950"

CAP=$614690 for a sellout.

Last edited by ClipCap at 9/5/2010 9:39:50 AM

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You should have 50 luxury boxes.

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I haven't seen anyone sell 50 Luxury boxes, let alone on a consistent bases, so given the cost to build them I feel it isn't worth the build cost. The equation to pull back that cost, without dropping lower than the amount you make off of 40 boxes at that price, would be too low.

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From: Jason

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Date: 9/5/2010 1:13:51 PM
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Here is an example of someone who occasionally sells 50 (26206)

I saw another team earlier today that sells all 50 every game, but I can't find it right now, when I do I will post them too.


From: ClipCap

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Date: 9/5/2010 7:53:41 PM
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Interesting, all that extra expense of building them for an extra $4k, if he sells them out, over a sellout of 40 at $975. I think selling the 40 would be easier to achieve. I think this proves my point, so far?

Last edited by ClipCap at 9/5/2010 8:36:05 PM

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From: Jason

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Date: 9/5/2010 8:07:21 PM
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Interesting, all that extra expense of building them for an extra $4k, if he sells them out, over a sellout of 40 at $975. I think selling the 40 would be easier to achieve. I think this proves my point, so far?


I see what you are saying, but at the same time I did see an example of a guy who sells 50 luxury boxes every single game. I think also the bigger factor is how long you anticipate being in the game for. If you plan on being around long, then eventually they will pay for themselves and everytime you sell any seat its pure profit. So if you are still playing this game 5 seasons from now, I am guessing you will be further ahead if you have 50 luxury boxes over 40.