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He wanted to win and paid top dollar to do that.. Its foolish yes but at same you have to do it at some point in Bb

He bought two guys who he couldn't afford to keep for two weeks, at a time where they were playoff ineligible. I am not exactly the greatest thing since sliced toast, but I feel safe in saying I don't have to nor will I do that at any point in my BB career.

Good luck staying in div three, maybe.. just maybe getting into div two!

I like your words.

However, you're missing one very important thing. Building up to a roster of ten mil takes considerable planning and will power. So it's not just a matter of selling your roster and yay! I has millions and millions!

The absolute worst thing about the current market is that, as players get cheaper and cheaper, training becomes less and less a strength. This is a shame because training and developing players is really fun.

However, you're missing one very important thing. Building up to a roster of ten mil takes considerable planning and will power. So it's not just a matter of selling your roster and yay! I has millions and millions!

No, not at the time, it was simply a case of joining in the first few seasons and having the revenues of the top leagues. Of course, they earned it because they managed to get promoted or to not get demoted against the teams they were facing. Other managers had an advantage too and spoilt it or were beaten and lost it. So it's all very fair.

You know this thread in Global that compiles the highest paid players, nice thread. Seasons are archived, it's interesting to look back.I find it fascinating to look at how the game has grown and changed, following rules.

Salaries were much lower since players were not as developed or not in enough stock.I think revenues were a bit lower.But overall, weekly benefits were in the scale of several 100k a week for a 1st tier team !That's with a full competitive roster, not by tanking :)

Not too much planning needed, they were playing the game well like it had to be played at that stage.
So it was just a matter of cashing in and buying the best players. The game was growing, players were trained better and better so after a season the best players were second string players if not trained. They were then sold with a profit since prices were always rising and the rich teams would replace them with the new best players, thanks to the pile of cash they were making every week. Cash was too easy to come, no value... I choosed the 10M figure to include DII teams but the best rosters were worth way more than that.

The point is that tanking was not around in the old days.There was no need for tanking, there were other easy ways of earning cash.
Tanking is a consequence of the difficulty to make cash today. How annoying that the game has turned more difficult :)

I stand by it that most tanking teams are cash trapped or end of cycle teams, they rejuvenate this way, it's the easy way. It's not a smart tactic, it's a desperate one.
I think it's ok if they tank a season, let their team go down a level and rebuild with the cash earned.It's a viable, legitimate and respectable strategy.
It's very different when they buy a team for the last few weeks of the season and stay up, rules should prevent that.

The absolute worst thing about the current market is that, as players get cheaper and cheaper, training becomes less and less a strength. This is a shame because training and developing players is really fun.

As for training, true it's less important than it used to be. It was very very important since at the start all the players had the skills of draftees :). By season 4/5 ?, potential was introduced which has in a way reset the game and is the date of birth of the first generation of players to be fully trained.

Today, the game is developed, there is a large range of players to choose from and even new teams can buy decent players when before they could only buy crap and crapper ( I just had a look at your first purchases, oh memories :D ).
It's normal the game is now less about training, BB is a lot more than training. It was the most important part but it was a phase at the beginning. IMO training is still important and cannot be neglected by most teams. It's cheap for a start. And today cheap is a very nice quality to have :)

I think it will go through a cycle. Managers will start to train less and, as a result, training will eventually be a worthy strategy again.

It's quite possible, at least per position or profile of players.

At one point , everybody was training bigs since it's the easiest. The market for bigs started to get crowded and teams switched to training guards for the bigger benefits.
Same for skills, passing was overlooked, harder to train since it can only be trained as a primary. Then passing was recognized as valuable and trained more.

There are probably training trends.

The Shotblocking Index is very low :D

Another funny transfer: (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/6450878/history.aspx) 200k Center for 3k!

it was my player... interesting price? I think BB gods have to do something to stop this shit in market...
it is nonsense, that players price is lower than salary...

Do someone think that Kobe or Lebron could be sold for lowwer price than their salaries? or changing teams more than 5-10 times in a season...

I agree, something should be done - players should not be allowed to be sold for four weeks after purchased, and owners should be allowed to fire NT players (though players actively on the NT can go back on the market at $0). The market has already spoken, and it's clear that people do not want these players and their sole existence is bouncing around from team to team who rent them for a short while. Let's let them die out instead, and hopefully people will be encouraged to train useful players rather than these worthless donkeys.

Of course, ideally we could just dispense with the NTs altogether, but of course I can't imagine that suggestion would ever gain much traction.

The NBA-stars of today are not comparable to the players discussed in this thread. I doubt Lebron would have under 12 in any skill, if suddenly summoned to the-BB game.

The players (centers) discussed here are more similar to classic old-school-centres like Kareem, Mark Eaton or the occasional Dwayne Schintzius. Only Kareem and Eaton could block 4 shots a game, so perhaps they are all mostly like Dwayne Schintzius...

So my own conlusion is that the destiny of 400k-salary-centers beeing journeymen is quite realistic, because they are too common, and they all look the same (orange eyebrows and growing bald since they were 18).

The NBA-stars of today are not comparable to the players discussed in this thread. I doubt Lebron would have under 12 in any skill, if suddenly summoned to the-BB game.

The players (centers) discussed here are more similar to classic old-school-centres like Kareem, Mark Eaton or the occasional Dwayne Schintzius. Only Kareem and Eaton could block 4 shots a game, so perhaps they are all mostly like Dwayne Schintzius...

So my own conlusion is that the destiny of 400k-salary-centers beeing journeymen is quite realistic, because they are too common, and they all look the same (orange eyebrows and growing bald since they were 18).

I think what's more relevant than how common they are or how they'd compare to RL basketball players is that in this case, realism has to take a back seat to game balancing. To satisfy the complaint that these "best guys" are worthless on the TL, BB would likely have to reduce their salaries to an amount that is reasonable for most teams to carry. Once that happens, salary no longer becomes a reasonable constraint on teams and instead those who have amassed much money will be able to buy up these donkeys and never have to worry about balancing the budget. The market for players who have reasonable salaries now will of course drop - why buy a guy with 50k salary skills when there are 200k guys all over the place? In the end it will just become an arms race to see who can train and otherwise acquire the biggest monsters, with everyone else left to watch the gap between them and the top teams grow further.