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93604.523 in reply to 93604.522
Date: 8/4/2009 3:55:18 PM
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There is more to reading a boxscore than blindly comparing team ratings and PP100 values.


All in all my point is that even for someone that has alot of experience with this game it really hard to imagine how this game managed to go into overtime. Thanks for all the elementary detail though, that was fun.

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Date: 8/4/2009 4:02:21 PM
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There is more to reading a boxscore than blindly comparing team ratings and PP100 values.


All in all my point is that even for someone that has alot of experience with this game it really hard to imagine how this game managed to go into overtime. Thanks for all the elementary detail though, that was fun.

Your point wasn't exactly clear from your post, so I guess it could have been anything. Especially given that I couldn't see any evidence of PP100 and team ratings telling a different story -- so maybe you can enlighten the unexperienced me?

All in all, however, the right team won by 12, so I don't see any problems with this game.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/4/2009 4:04:10 PM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 8/4/2009 4:10:09 PM
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All in all, however, the right team won by 12, so I don't see any problems with this game.


Kinda, they won by 12 in OT.

I understand there should be a random factor to a GE and in the past (in which case it's possible been understated).

In this case, the home team was the stronger team, nailed the tactics, and was better at distributing more shots to the highest efficiency players. Should have been a blowout barring some major discrepincies in rebounds, fouls, free throws, blocks, etc., which there wasn't.

This was either a rare case of extreme random factor or there's something that's missing from what can be explained by the box score. Since this is a new GE I'm curious its the latter, esp in light of the rarity of this type of upset in the past.

Last edited by brian at 8/4/2009 4:12:03 PM

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Date: 8/4/2009 4:42:26 PM
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Well, the Goats won the rebounding race and have 7 more offensive rebounds to show for it -- this might have been what kept them in the game (they did attempt 13 more shots).

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/4/2009 4:43:19 PM

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Date: 8/4/2009 5:39:04 PM
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You should remember that the GE is looking for the best shot on each possession, and they only managed to find a good shot inside on 25% of their total shots. That's god-awful. On the other hand, Chicago shot close to 50% of their shots through their strongest PP100 (PG/SF).


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i never understood those matchups ratings, weaker ine very position but nearly the same overall percentage.(or should i say the sligthly better one)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/4/2009 5:39:39 PM

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Date: 8/5/2009 6:58:57 AM
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You might be linking the wrong game?

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93604.529 in reply to 93604.528
Date: 8/5/2009 7:03:32 AM
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no i am pretty sure that it was the right one, the matchup ratings was on every position 10-20 points higher the overall shooting percentage was lower^^

And yes it is not my personal, but a game from someone who i know a bit.

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Date: 8/5/2009 8:43:32 AM
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Another random result i would say of this new game engine. With the old even with lower enthusiasm he would have won this game.

This game has lost a lot of tactical sense i prefer to play the old game engine than this random game.

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Take a look on this game, it was played yesterday, with same enthusiasm, and it shows how incredible is this new game engine really n/c gogo random results.

Last edited by Marot at 8/5/2009 8:45:36 AM

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Date: 8/5/2009 8:55:56 AM
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Oasis was outrebounded and it cost them the game. Playing 1-3-1 zone with such poor rebunding is asking to lose. So he defended the guy's outside jumpers only to be killed on the offensive glass. Plus, not only did he get destroyed on the boards, he also fouled a lot more. If this game happened in real life, I would be surprised if Oasis won. Outrebounded and 14 less FT attempts. This is a very typical formula for losing in basketball.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 8/5/2009 9:05:18 AM
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His attack was 8 and the outside defense of San Blas was 4.

Where is the difference in attack? I dont see it, Oasis had to score with more effective results, in the old game engine he would won it.

39,5 % in shoots, 36,1% in T3.

I dont really think that playing against a 2-3 and having a good attack u score just 98 points, when with new game engine its easy to score more than 110 points, it just sounds me ridicolous that with his attack and his opponent defense he scored that low, and what is worst, San Blas did 41-101.


Its random results, as new game engine is so random.

By the way, another surprising match, i was like Oo: (6784)

I think that last game was a joke of BB xDDDD

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Date: 8/5/2009 9:22:56 AM
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Why did this one go into OT, it's even more strange as brian's game?

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