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From: Kukoc

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Date: 7/1/2012 9:03:33 AM
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Sure there are exceptions to the rules. With new mutations, someone in the family carrieing a taller height gene, that has been suppressed by unknown reasons. Playing around with growth hormone (it's been used in sports for ages now).
There is a simple formulae for calculating heigh of a baby. Dad's height + mom's height +-13 (+ if a boy, - if a girl) / 2, with girls the range is +-8, with boys +-9. Obviously there are a lot of variables that can influence height in fetus stage or later in life (like mom's diabetes, excess insulin in fetus stage, tumors, bad habits like alcohol in the early age etc).
But we are drifting away from the topic again...

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Date: 7/1/2012 11:37:28 AM
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I'm 5'7'' right now at 14

I was 5'7" at 14 too. But I just grew an inch over the years and now I'm stuck at 5'8" >_<

Sure there are exceptions to the rules. With new mutations, someone in the family carrieing a taller height gene, that has been suppressed by unknown reasons. Playing around with growth hormone (it's been used in sports for ages now).
There is a simple formulae for calculating heigh of a baby. Dad's height + mom's height +-13 (+ if a boy, - if a girl) / 2, with girls the range is +-8, with boys +-9. Obviously there are a lot of variables that can influence height in fetus stage or later in life (like mom's diabetes, excess insulin in fetus stage, tumors, bad habits like alcohol in the early age etc).
But we are drifting away from the topic again...

Lol yea.. Sorry about that (about drifting off topic) XD

By the way, about height: If we had youth academies, wouldn't early training favour guard skills and later training favour big skills? Since they are suppose to grow taller.



I was 5'9 3/4ths before my 11th birthday at the start of 5th grade. I have not grown a MILIMETER since then.
My dad was the shortest male in his family. 6'5. Genetics is a funny thing.

From: Flamen

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Date: 7/3/2012 1:48:07 PM
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I think growth is completely off topic here xD

The only way I like the academy idea is if all academy prospects have to sing up in the draft. You will have a better understanding of their stats so you can reach in the draft if you are interested, you can direct their training, but in draft day anyone can draft them.

From: Kukoc

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Date: 7/3/2012 1:50:34 PM
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You will have a better understanding of their stats so you can reach in the draft if you are interested, you can direct their training, but in draft day anyone can draft them.
This is great!!! I would support academys if this was the case. I can be last in the league, invest into scouting and get a good guy, without investing in the academy. No guarantees.
+1

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Date: 7/4/2012 4:59:35 AM
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I think growth is completely off topic here xD

The only way I like the academy idea is if all academy prospects have to sing up in the draft. You will have a better understanding of their stats so you can reach in the draft if you are interested, you can direct their training, but in draft day anyone can draft them.



Now this, seems like a good solution.

From: donep

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Date: 7/5/2012 6:38:19 AM
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Actually in my opinion this would be a really bad desicion. If the draft system remains combined with academy system, then what may happen:
Top teams don't see any point in training a good player in academy, since they won't have a good pick and they might not get their player. Personaly i wouldn't train a player if i knew he might end up in my opponents team. And the teams that are on a verge of demotion dedicate decent amount of money and get a proper player without any lottery.
I don't really see any way these two systems could co-exist. But I would prefer academy system over drafts. As someone had already said, this would change NBA system to FIBA's system.

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220768.62 in reply to 220768.61
Date: 7/5/2012 7:17:46 AM
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Actually in my opinion this would be a really bad desicion. If the draft system remains combined with academy system, then what may happen:
Top teams don't see any point in training a good player in academy, since they won't have a good pick and they might not get their player. Personaly i wouldn't train a player if i knew he might end up in my opponents team. And the teams that are on a verge of demotion dedicate decent amount of money and get a proper player without any lottery.
I don't really see any way these two systems could co-exist. But I would prefer academy system over drafts. As someone had already said, this would change NBA system to FIBA's system.


Your scenario would depend on variables.
YOU may not feel its worth it to do academy knowing players may end up on opponents teams... Others may feel its very worth it. Or even some may train players in such a way to make them seem good... but really they look like swiss cheese when you get them. Or maybe someone puts out great quality guys, hoping they'll slide by. It can make the draft that much deeper, or that much more horrible. it would vary from league to league.

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220768.63 in reply to 220768.62
Date: 7/5/2012 8:01:08 AM
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Well as i said it is just my opinion. Everyone writes what they think, because there is no general opinion... However I can't imagine any team that would train a player from age 15 for three seasons, just for him to end up in an opponent team.

It just seems wrong when 7-8 position teams know what they will get and top teams, even if they train a decent player, might not get it... This way I think that top teems wouldn't spend any money on academy and just hope for good luck in draft. This way the draft might end up with only a few trained players, that go to 7-8 position teams.

Of course it all depends on the group and the people in it. However, I don't feel this approach would work.

P.S. Once again - only my opinion ;)

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