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From: Knowledge

To: Phyr
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Magiker currently has four NT players on his team in the NBBA. He has sacrificed being able to compete for a league title to train NT players often out of position. Would you be willing to sacrifice your clubs success for the NT?


Undoubtedly yes. Last season I sold off my team, picked up Irvin Porter(u21 but still) and invested heavily in the draft in hopes of drafting a HOF. Had a NT player/hopeful been up for sale during that time I would've made an attempt at getting them.

How important is it to you to keep American players in the hands of American owners?


Two answers here: If the player had been with the same owner for multiple seasons and we know he can be trusted like ESV Liam with Grubbs I don't see a problem.
If a player is up for sale, I would like one of our own to get him especially if one of those sabotaging aholes bid. But if a higher up foreigner gets him, especially a B3 competitor, it wouldn't bother me.

China has been our bugaboo the last couple of seasons. What are your thoughts on Chinas team and how you would game plan/train players to beat them?


I think we already have the players to beat them, some shitty luck screwed us out last season but it was proved we're just as good in S28. As for gameplanning, I'm not giving that out in public, I'm sure the Chinese have a translator out there.

BB's decreased user base has taken a toll on the offsite. Only a few members in the NBBA and DII actively participate. What would you do increase offsite participation?


Advertise like crazy. JFarb's advertising was how I got involved and we saw the most increase when we would advertise.
Sign up if you haven't http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/ and if you have but rarely active, start posting!

The lack of a NT database means that scouting NT players is much more difficult and time consuming. How would you scout players for this seasons America's tournament?

Old fashioned BB-mail. The NT scout tool is available, filter here and there, check up those players skills. Bring back the "We Need x"/"NT x pipeline" thread.

Last edited by Knowledge at 5/2/2015 1:57:12 PM

From: magiker

To: RamQ
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I believe one thing that gives me an edge here is being involved in the gameplanning for the past 4 seasons. Not just for tactical reasons, but also being familiar with current players. It's important to know what offenses certain players shine in and which one they seem to struggle with.

Can't overstate this enough. NT players typically have a short window. 6 seasons ago when I started, Smith was still training and was the first real PF we ever had. He wasn't even that good, took him another full season of training to actually be useful. Now he's 33 and probably won't ever play a NT game again. The turnover on the NT is really quick, and it you haven't been following the players and the games over the past few seasons, you're really at a disadvantage. We learn a lot about how these players play in different offenses, which players we can play "out of position" in certain offenses, which spots we can blank and which ones we can't etc. By the end of this, I think we were pretty good at deciphering what we had to do to win. Was 1 guess enough, do we need 2? Do we even need one at all if we normal, etc. I don't want to have to relearn all of that.

And there's another huge reason to vote for RamQ that no one's mentioned yet. In order to win anything, you need to have great players. I have 4 NT players on my team, and they're all pretty good. They provide depth at positions where we have great players, and capable starters at positions where we don't. But a team of my guys won't win anything, they're not good enough. When RamQ bought Bowens, he already had really good secondaries. Literally anyone else would have just finished up the primaries, got to play him in his natural position, and made a pretty good NT player. But RamQ kept training secondaries and made him a great player. Of all of the American players in this game, there are 4 great ones, and RamQ made one of them. He clearly understands what it takes to win at this level, and we definitely don't win worlds 3 seasons ago without Bowens. We were at a huge disadvantage this season when he was injured for the semi and final.

From: A-Dub
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Date: 5/3/2015 3:30:51 AM
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A-Dub vote for RamQ. Me lub Barbarian. He make gud leader.

Last edited by A-Dub at 5/3/2015 3:34:16 AM

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