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It was "amazing" to see that you have no answer to the fact about this three huge BB-nations.
You are welcome to go over all other BB-nations, and find out this stats, but for you to prove your point you will need also to give information what have happened to those who started prior season-4, and how much had been prior that season comparing current number.
I'm not sure that you are mentally able to do that.

why he shoul do that, in case he is doing it, you will read it and instantly forget it like the time this was done before.

a) Which?
b) How many users they include?
c) Where those old users went? I'm betting that (as already written), that they just got bored and left the game or the division in order of realy experiencing BB-managing.
This had been said to be true by a user before.

you forgot the reply of the BB to that already, mostly all other bigger nations.

NO, not all other BB nation has teams that are post season-4.

In addition, that did not answer what have happened to all other Prior-Season-4 teams on those nations you are giving as an example.
The answer will be one of the following (and I have seen that on some of the nations, but it took to much time):
A) They have left the game (just got bored) to play eBay on this division.
B) They have tanked to lower league to really play BB-managing game (and that we have heard here on this Suggestions Forum).
C) He was a really bad manager, and wasting money and mistakes is something that can easily be done.

a) Each user's team is the biggest asset one has.
You did not lost money if you improved your roster.
b) If that was the case, than new users would have catch your place in the first division, as money buy players.

as you stated my team get older, which means my player also lost value. Also the salary paid is lost money for me, and that eaten up the income from the bigger arenas ;) And training high skilled player in the market also don't increase the value.

That made me look at your TH.
Well well, what a "surprise"...
1) You are a day trader.
2) Most of your players that had been recently sold, had been sold for more money than had been purchased. WOW, AMAZING...
How that sits with your "TRUE" information about your player value only declining? Or maybe you are trying to raise a fund for the DIV-1 teams...

3) Remind us on which season did you joined the game?

end of season two or 3. And remind me when i said that we need to reduce the income of div 1 teams*, i stated that pretty often at least to season 12. So maybe i can not only see basic, economical relation maybe i even have experience with that game.
*That had probably to do with my egoistic approach to the game, as you will explain me soon ;)

On that you are right.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/4/2012 11:21:55 AM

It had never been done.

The only information that had been brought back then was about SEVERAL nations who do consists teams that had been created post season-4 on that nation's DIV-1 league, but W/O all other information that would have proven the WHY.

Here is an example of the German DIV-1 league:
Big-8:
A single team that had been created post season-4.
When was it created? Season-5. Those "newbies"...
Which place are they? SIX out of eight!!!
Who are those two that are below them?
1) A team that seems to leave the game or try to tank to a lower league. This can be seen upon that team result on this season.
A team who is easily beaten each game on the league.
2) A team that seems to throw this season, but will be the one who will probably win the delegation series between those two.

Great-8:
NONE, GURNISHT, NADA.
Not a single team who had joined BB post season-4.
Now I understand why you are fighting to keep it this way...

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/4/2012 11:40:31 AM

That made me look at your TH.
Well well, what a "surprise"...
1) You are a day trader.
2) Most of your players that had been recently sold, had been sold for more money than had been purchased. WOW, AMAZING...

even when this might be true, even when i feel offended by this statement a bit. Since i just sell some minutes fillers from time to time or spare time trainees, which i try buy cheap which made up for total 2 transfer this season.
What does this add up to this topic? Did you want to underline that i didn't understand the market, nromally traders should know them right?

How that sits with your "TRUE" information about your player value only declining? Or maybe you are trying to raise a fund for the DIV-1 teams...

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/4587237/history.aspx

i am unsure how i should i explain that otherwise, especially when i am so good in buying cheap and sell for the maximum price ;) Probadly 800k is more then 2,2 Mio. ordid you didn't noticed my last transfer when you check my team transfers up?

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/4/2012 12:02:39 PM

1) A single, and not a representative example for your TH, does not prove anything close to what you are claiming. Just the opposite.

2) If you and the rest of DIV-1 teams are so miserable and poor, like the false picture you are trying to draw, how does your league consist of a single user who joined later than season-4, and even he joined only a single season afterwards (and probably will be delegated at the end of this year).

3) All this explains (at least in my eyes) why you are supporting the current auction system and how much what you have written sounds (at least to me) as a lie that hides the real true that it assists you as a day-trader.

4) All this explains (at least to me) why you don't "see" how the assets are being piled up, and the game has a competitiveness problem due to that.
A fact that can easily be observed at your own BB-nation.

i believe we are pretty far from the topic right now, so let us stop this here.(also since we reach a dead point too)

3) All this explains (at least in my eyes) why you are supporting the current auction system and how much what you have written sounds (at least to me) as a lie that hides the real true that it assists you as a day-trader.

day-trading is not that often in Buzzerbeater as you think. it's actually far less than on other fantasy games.

no ofence but i really feel like you should learn to be a better game colleague and not blame the fact that you are in lower league on the game faults.



learn to take and work with what you have. have fun with your team and against the guys from your league. first beat them then worry about higher leagues.

Day-trading is an extreme feature for higher leagues.

You can see that by looking at CrazyEye way of playing.
He only done that twice (upon what he had written), but he does not train a single player he drafted which is younger than 21 (and much higher than that age).

Regarding the competitiveness on this game - you need to read the input I've brought, and then to respond upon that.
Believe me it is quite clear from the facts brought what is going on at this game.

Regarding my "frustration";
You are wrong at your observation.
In my first full season I had been promoted to the next league (won my way to the next league, and not got that due to someone leaving the game).
At my second season I've passed the relegation round and kept my seat.
On current third season I am about to get to promoted once again to the next division (second division).
I may fail doing that this season, but things currently seems very good.
So, there is no reason for any frustration from my side.

I am just aware of the facts (that it seems you did not read them), and they are pointing to that the game as competitiveness problems.

Regarding blaming and attacking - you first need to get familiar with the material of those users and behavior to undestand that I'm just on the reacting side.
And besides, they are posing a stand that is biased (as far as I believe).

Day-trading is an extreme feature for higher leagues.

You can see that by looking at CrazyEye way of playing.

He only done that twice (upon what he had written), but he does not train a single player he drafted which is younger than 21 (and much higher than that age).

is not really the matter of an d-league option, and really don't like to called that even when i see you use another definition. And reduce it to one, since the other got trained quite succesful.

PS: I am happy with my older trainee, and the one i started training from the stretch who just get finished those seasons. And even when i get a great draft pick i would train him behind the age, since i need the players like that.

Day-trading is an extreme feature for higher leagues.

I don't understand this line. If you imply daytrading is very common in higher leagues, you are wrong. That is generally not the case, although you may be able to find examples and it may be common in some countries. If you are saying that when done successfully, daytrading is a tool to help you get to higher leagues and succeed there, then I can obviously agree.

Thanks for trying to keep this on topic! :)

to all else, lets keep posts relvent to the D-league suggestion, and any arguments/suggestions/comments, please relate back to how your comment will help/prevent D-league and its proposed implementation.

otherwise, im glad to see there is still interest in this idea.

Someone posted about a hattrick game... does this have a D-league feature? if so, can this be explained or explained perhaps why it specifically doesn't, and how it is similar to here. Thanks peeps!