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From: Kukoc

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130923.57 in reply to 130923.55
Date: 2/14/2010 11:57:16 AM
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You can not throw in money comparison atm as you don't know how much scouting investment you need to scout every player once. If 5k a week gives you one scouting point then. You actually need 8 weeks scouting with 10k and 6 weeks with 20k. Thats a total of 200k. With this you would get every player scouted once. The other two teams could go for the same sum. Having 48 scouting points would give them both a valid chance to find all those 4-5 star players scouted twise. Now compare that info to any other team scouting alone.
Position, age and potential are enough to compare those players.
Your number crunching is so wrong that it leaves me wondering, did you finish high school :D

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130923.59 in reply to 130923.57
Date: 2/14/2010 12:47:25 PM
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Your number crunching is so wrong that it leaves me wondering, did you finish high school :D

8 weeks scouting @ 10k = 16 players
6 weeks scouting @ 20k = 18 players
16 + 18 = 34 players
hmmm that seems a tad short of the 48 players in the draft. Good maths skills :P

48 players in the draft.
Lets assume Team 1 spends 40k per week to uncover 4 players at a time (which is the quickest way).
This means that Team 1 would spend 12 weeks of the season to scout every player once.
This = 480k and would "apparently" reveal all the 5 star players (Are you meaning they have 5 stars worth of skills? Because this cannot be determined on 1st scout).


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130923.60 in reply to 130923.59
Date: 2/14/2010 2:30:25 PM
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Every team get's base 14 scouting points for free. So even if you do not invest in scouting you have some basic info.
It's nice to be clever, but not when it comes back to bite you in the ass ;)

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130923.61 in reply to 130923.60
Date: 2/14/2010 3:31:42 PM
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I realise you get 14 scouting points for free, but you don't get that until the end, and there is no gaurantee that the 14 points will be used to scout the remaining players. Those 14 points might uncover second level data for some players.
So for your "plan" to work, team 1 would need to scout as I said, and not rely on the 14 extra data points.

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130923.62 in reply to 130923.61
Date: 2/14/2010 3:42:00 PM
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Pay attention. If this overhaul will be implemented, teams can assign those 14 points or they will be randomly used as first scouting only.

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130923.63 in reply to 130923.62
Date: 2/14/2010 5:07:36 PM
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Okay, even if they are used as first scouting, they are not used until the end of the season. Hence you will not know what those 14 players info is until the end of the scouting process, which means the other teams would no longer be able to scout for those players.

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130923.64 in reply to 130923.62
Date: 2/14/2010 5:11:43 PM
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Suppose that all people posting in this thread are dear friends in the same league. What I see is that they will not be able to reach a common strategy to share informations about how sparing money in the draft. I realize that, above all, may be it's possible, but surely it's rather difficult. :)

PS: Why do you think that position should be part of the draft report? In my opinion one should know height labels (first scout) and differential skill ratings (second scout). If I'm looking for PGs, I will not further scout players XL or XXL, I don't care about their actual suggested positions. After second scout for S-M players, I will not set at the top of my list S players skilled for big men.

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130923.65 in reply to 130923.63
Date: 2/14/2010 5:52:18 PM
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The time frame does not really matter. T1 keeps scouting through the list. T2,T3 start to look for those 5-4 star players for full scout info. The timeframe is just a little different. You will still have full list for the end of the season.
But it's pointless to rant about this, as we are not actually making any progress here.

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130923.66 in reply to 130923.65
Date: 2/14/2010 6:04:17 PM
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Oh well, I'd still rather have this system in place than the current system, even at the slight chance that teams will cheat.

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130923.67 in reply to 130923.66
Date: 2/15/2010 12:38:07 AM
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Hasn't everyone said the free 14 scoutings happen at the end randomly to preserve a random element? Isn't that when NBA teams step up their scouting, just before the draft with the draft camps, individual workouts etc? That makes a huge difference.

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