BuzzerBeater Forums

I think growth is completely off topic here xD

The only way I like the academy idea is if all academy prospects have to sing up in the draft. You will have a better understanding of their stats so you can reach in the draft if you are interested, you can direct their training, but in draft day anyone can draft them.

You will have a better understanding of their stats so you can reach in the draft if you are interested, you can direct their training, but in draft day anyone can draft them.

This is great!!! I would support academys if this was the case. I can be last in the league, invest into scouting and get a good guy, without investing in the academy. No guarantees.
+1

Last edited by Kukoc at 7/3/2012 1:51:20 PM

I think growth is completely off topic here xD

The only way I like the academy idea is if all academy prospects have to sing up in the draft. You will have a better understanding of their stats so you can reach in the draft if you are interested, you can direct their training, but in draft day anyone can draft them.

Now this, seems like a good solution.

Actually in my opinion this would be a really bad desicion. If the draft system remains combined with academy system, then what may happen:
Top teams don't see any point in training a good player in academy, since they won't have a good pick and they might not get their player. Personaly i wouldn't train a player if i knew he might end up in my opponents team. And the teams that are on a verge of demotion dedicate decent amount of money and get a proper player without any lottery.
I don't really see any way these two systems could co-exist. But I would prefer academy system over drafts. As someone had already said, this would change NBA system to FIBA's system.

Actually in my opinion this would be a really bad desicion. If the draft system remains combined with academy system, then what may happen:
Top teams don't see any point in training a good player in academy, since they won't have a good pick and they might not get their player. Personaly i wouldn't train a player if i knew he might end up in my opponents team. And the teams that are on a verge of demotion dedicate decent amount of money and get a proper player without any lottery.
I don't really see any way these two systems could co-exist. But I would prefer academy system over drafts. As someone had already said, this would change NBA system to FIBA's system.

Your scenario would depend on variables.
YOU may not feel its worth it to do academy knowing players may end up on opponents teams... Others may feel its very worth it. Or even some may train players in such a way to make them seem good... but really they look like swiss cheese when you get them. Or maybe someone puts out great quality guys, hoping they'll slide by. It can make the draft that much deeper, or that much more horrible. it would vary from league to league.

Well as i said it is just my opinion. Everyone writes what they think, because there is no general opinion... However I can't imagine any team that would train a player from age 15 for three seasons, just for him to end up in an opponent team.

It just seems wrong when 7-8 position teams know what they will get and top teams, even if they train a decent player, might not get it... This way I think that top teems wouldn't spend any money on academy and just hope for good luck in draft. This way the draft might end up with only a few trained players, that go to 7-8 position teams.

Of course it all depends on the group and the people in it. However, I don't feel this approach would work.

P.S. Once again - only my opinion ;)

So that's exactly what the academy suggestion is about. Late draftchoise teams molding their draftees to be perfect. Getting a great draftee + winning the league is not how draft should work. Putting the academy draftees into the mix for everyone to draft suddenly has the suggestors not wanting to experience the coolness of academys.

If this suggestion was just for a great addition and everyone would just love to do something extra weekly in developing those young studs, then it would be ok. But suddenly noone want to give those guys away. So it leaves me to thinking, this has everything to do with everyone just molding their draftees for their suitability.

Academys with draft would bring an incentitive to actually create a good draftee (for a good team) if everyone else is also training/molding their draftees and planning to draft theirs. If anyone breaks the cycle and goes for someone elses, then it get's interesting. It might still get used minimally, like the draft had less people investing. Everyone said draft was pointless etc. I drafted some good s%&t every season, because of the nonbelievers:) I always invest depending on the league average. If everyone has good info on the draft, there are low chances for you to draft a good player late. If a lot of the teams do not invest, you have a pretty decent chance of landing something worth to train.

Sorry for going this long, but I had some extra ideas. Perhaps draft consists of 3 draftees from every household (team). Your teams academy player skills are known to you. Others can scout them just like the scouting works currently. You get 3 young talents signed to your academy at the start of every season (should they all be 17, one 18, or randomly chosen 17 or 18, needs to be determined). But I don't think flooding over academys with 15yo's and then eventually getting them draft ready is the way to go. This would still create the problems with random, like the current system. Where someone get's better starting skills for their academy guys then others in the same league. Just noone will know about it, before the draft day. If they get directly signed from academy (no draft) then it's even a bigger problem imo.

Why not combine both? So two are added to the Draft and one is directly signed for the team (maybe pick one at random so that teams want to make more than one decent Player)

Keep the age the same as it is now - so playrrs can only be "drafted" when they are at least 18 and not older than 19 - that way even if the academies are flooded with 15yo nothing would change

I think it would be good if we would only get a very rough (if any) outline on how high the potential of our youth players are otherwise we would see too many high potential draftees I think

No direct signing. Otherwize I just take the best and send 2 19yo's to draft. We all know those are useless.

No direct signing. Otherwize I just take the best and send 2 19yo's to draft. We all know those are useless.

He's saying it would be at random. So there is no "taking" Its being "given" (you get what you get, don't throw a fit) as my wife the teacher says to her students.