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Show me one game that you managed (whether in NT or club) that you have won thanks to certain unusual tactical choice, explain what it was and how it contributed to final result.

To not look far...my last match in league (62955873) I had just 6 players to play. I played away. First games are very difficult because the enthusiasm is small and the own court will give you more advantage. I had to do something more than LI and mtm to win. I decided to play 2-3 in defense. I think I have great player to play this tactic. The most important to play 2-3 is BL and OD for inside players and ID for outside players. I used this and it worked. I won RB and make inside defensive stronger. Although, I clearly lost assist and had much more turnovers I won very confident.

Unless we are talking about making pretty speech about contacting managers to develop players, write training plans etc. This stuff is fairly obvious and I am sure each candidate is aware that that's part of the job.

Absolutely agree!

Last edited by kozlik4 at 9/22/2013 2:33:43 PM

Would appreciate if Bballin answered question as well before the voting deadline to give managers a chance to make informed decision

I regret I had so little opportunities to talk with you about tactical knowledge. I think tactical knowledge will be the most useful in the face of the upcoming changes. How will lead the national team someone who didn't successfully use, and probably doesn't know how to successfully use other tactics than LI and MtM? I proved (in this debate and in my history) I have much more to offer in this item. Think about it again...You can still change your voice:-)

All the best
kozlik4

You prove what by showing 1 single game where you played LI/2-3? Wow, that is such a huge change from LI/man.

Hell, CAN NT and CAN U21 both played LI/2-3 last game.

We never use other tactics. Ha!

I'm sure Bballin has used other tactics with his club team and won games as well.

You prove what by showing 1 single game where you played LI/2-3? Wow, that is such a huge change from LI/man.

Hell, CAN NT and CAN U21 both played LI/2-3 last game.

We never use other tactics. Ha!

I'm sure Bballin has used other tactics with his club team and won games as well.

Be fair man. The question was about one match...You can look on my history and find a lot of matches when I successfuly use almost all tactics. I definitely have more practice in using different tactics on the highest level.

When Bbalin used another tactic than LI and MtM and won difficult to win by LI and MtM match? When did tactical knowledge was given him advantage? I don't see even single match when 2-3 was given Bbalin advantage.

By the way, the most important is not to show the match but to prove understanding of tactics. I did it. Bbalin not. You can play 2-3, and don't understand how it works.

Last edited by kozlik4 at 9/23/2013 5:55:01 PM

He was only answering the question, no need to be like that about it.

I'm not being anyway about it. I'm just saying that if he has so many examples of great usage of BB tactic choices, it's pretty funny to me that he points out one where all he did was LI/2-3 instead of LI/man. I don't find it terribly ground-breaking.
(But at least he has answered questions for the debate)

Last edited by Kumiko (CAN U21) at 9/23/2013 8:24:42 PM

Yes, answering questions is a definete plus in a debate. Also, 2-3 is the tactic that is hard to understand by most, extremely useful if well used since most of teams play LI and a misuse has terrible consequences (just look at my game with Hounds in the cup), so although not groundbreaking, knowing how to play 2-3 is extremely important. Also, I dont think there is any doubt at this point who has more experience at highest level, which wasnt as important until now since it was almost always LI/m2m, but it will become extremely important starting season 26, and thats when more experienced manager could greatly benefit our NT, as well as users who can also observe whats happening and implement ideas they like to their own teams. I could understand results of last election with monotony in tactics and activity being arguably most important factor, but now I think it is time to get some knowledge from the outside. It could do nothing but benefit BB Canada in my opinion

Well, in couple of hours everything will be decided. It is really to bad that debate went exactly as predicted with one candidate tryng to gain trust, and other one trying not to screw it up by not putting any answers out there, except for standards about activity and stating that nothing was screwed up in past 2 seasons that had big consequences so why change?

I will support whover wins this elections and help Canada as much as I can, but the reason why I didnt start and that I support kozlik in this elections is that the changes introduced will benefit experienced managers and I didnt feel I have enough expierence (and I dont believe that bbalin does with tactics either)

Sorry ive been realy busy lately with work.

First off, why point out that Canada rarely stays away from LI/MtM.. We wouldnt have had as much success if we didnt. Is the goal of an NT manager to play the wackiest tactics and impress people?

Anyways to answer the question, (18340)

An inverted Patient win against France at the U21 level in the repechage. We were horribly outmatched at each position, so we created our own mismatch and it worked.

Any other questions?

It was to point out lack of experience in using other tactics at that level (your club team never reached highest level), which although was enough for this term (LI/m2m was the best choice), and thats why I said that I understand the results of last election, but looking at the changes which are about to be implemented they wont be enough for next term. Of course we can stick to the same thing, become predictable, win with weaker teams, lose with stronger and stay where we are, you can stay a manager and experiment (NT isnt for that), or we can go with kozlik for this term and try to go for it all (and either achieve something, or possibly fail miserably).

So I got two questions here. Do we (as Canadian managers) are content to stay where we are, or do we want to risk while we have possibly strongest roster in history (except for SF) to achieve something (or fail while trying)

Second question is directly to you. How can you convince other managers or me that you do have experience with different tactics at this level (more than kozlik) and that you will be the best choice for S26 (I have no doubts that you both would do equally well for S25)

edit: and its really a shame that it is already so late and most managers wont login to take most arguments into consideration when taking their vote

Last edited by damian13ster at 9/23/2013 11:01:47 PM

It was to point out my lack of experience at the highest level with tactics? Im pretty sure an inverted patient victory trumps a 2-3, especially with the current Effect of SB as opposed to the pre season 24 effects of it.

I dont necessarily have experience, but I understand lots of the tactics. I understand when to switch it up and how to switch it up. Plus, im pretty sure the prediction bonus wont be as massive as people make it out to be. Id guess maybe a 5 point swing, but we will find out come ASB this season wont we? Also, I suspect that it doesnt get used too often, managers would rather be safe than sorry in most cases.

Maybe you should have asked these questions earlier :)