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I've been playing for a little over 12 full seasons, half of that time learning the hard way what not to do. About 4-5 seasons ago, I wrapped my head around the on-court tactics of this game and built a division 4 monster, and dominated that division. So, I finally promote to this division, and I'm losing every game, losing money, and even losing every bidding war on the transfer market. My two most talented players are also my youngest and highest paid, one of whom I am still training. I think I do well enough with the X's and O's, but the $ is killing me. My arena is smaller than it should be for this division, and I haven't learned how to turn a profit on the transfer market. Well, I have at least a couple of choices. One, I can struggle to avoid relegation, but I think it's a long shot. Not to mention, how long can I afford to stay here? Two, sell one or both of my stars, keep losing, go back to division 4 and rebuild. Any thoughts?

I've been playing for a little over 12 full seasons, half of that time learning the hard way what not to do. About 4-5 seasons ago, I wrapped my head around the on-court tactics of this game and built a division 4 monster, and dominated that division. So, I finally promote to this division, and I'm losing every game, losing money, and even losing every bidding war on the transfer market. My two most talented players are also my youngest and highest paid, one of whom I am still training. I think I do well enough with the X's and O's, but the $ is killing me. My arena is smaller than it should be for this division, and I haven't learned how to turn a profit on the transfer market. Well, I have at least a couple of choices. One, I can struggle to avoid relegation, but I think it's a long shot. Not to mention, how long can I afford to stay here? Two, sell one or both of my stars, keep losing, go back to division 4 and rebuild. Any thoughts?

I think you have too much ground to gain to get out of the cellar. But fight to the bitter end, you never know.

The arena is a touch small but not the real issue. The issue is you have way too many players. Keep your studs, keep enough depth to fill a 8-10 man rotation and sell or in the case of those freeloaders at the end of the bench ....well time to bring them in for the talk. https://youtu.be/m9GJXYU3KDY

Last edited by Coach Lambini at 8/30/2018 12:24:05 PM

Hello Spiders - on your team, you have too many players and not enough seats in your arena. 1) no need for 20 players. Real NBA teams only run 12 deep, with the last fewer being benchwarmers. For your team, you need 5 good starters, plus 3 decent backups. Plus you will then have a few extra trainees (number depends on if doing 1 or 2 position training, plus how many trainees are included in your starters/subs). Then maybe a couple of cheap losers to play/backup your regular subs in mid-week friendlies in non training slots once out of the tourney. (You Don't want to run your regular starters out in those games - risk of injury in a meaningless game, plus form drop due to too many minutes played.)
2) arena too small. Through mid August you sold out the first three seating types for many games in a row. Only now, with your team struggling are fans staying away. Think of how much more money you could have made if you had more seats during that sellout streak. (Don't add any more VIP seats - never sold them out during your July to mid August attendance run). In addition to building a team, one also has to master the financial aspects of Buzzerbeater. Good luck.

Last edited by homercat at 8/30/2018 10:13:15 PM

I agree with the other coaches about your roster, its too big, trim it down to 11-13 players. That will save you some money.
Your roster still looks like a D4 roster. I would have made upgrades at the start of the season on your weakest positions to be competitive at this level. Its a little late now so I would probably invest in some young trainees and go back to D4 and rebuild. Keep adding to your arena and adjusting your prices. Be ready next time with rising young talent and/ or money to buy upgrades at the next level.
Its tough to make money in this game and be competitive at the same time but keep trying. Good Luck.

Well all good advice, so I am going to go a different route.

1st - you happen to be in one of the hardest DIII leagues I have ever seen.
2nd - I would think about selling everyone and starting over unless you savage something out of your MVP big men.
3rd - You're vision to win D4 was good but that's about as far as your chapter went. Think D2 or D1 when you build again so if you promote you can hang in that league and prosper.
4th - Get a good draft pick to help you out or for $$$.
4th - Arena enuff said.

Good Luck and it takes a big person to ask for help, also to be ready to receive constructive criticism.
My door is always open to you.

Thanks to all of you for your replies and help so far. I know no one wants to give away their ultimate secrets on how to win it all, but I still feel like I am missing some of the basics. So I have three questions.

First, I know that the goal is to build a D1-2 monster, and that it is going to take some bank. I also see that I need to build my arena and make some roster cuts. But there's more to making money in this game than that. As I think about allowing my team to relegate or fighting it tooth and nail, is it easier to make money in D3 or D4?

Second, I have no delusions of making the playoffs this season. My only hope is to get out of last place and win the relegation game. To do that, I need to pick up one, maybe two hired guns. On average, how much should I expect to pay for such a player who could be a competative starter in this division?

Third, if I am going to relegate and turn my team into a money making machine, then there's something I have to know. How does one make a profit on the transfer market? I know it has to do with buying low, training them and selling high, but that high resale price has to be higher than the original buying price and the cost of weekly salary while training him, otherwise you don't make a profit. X-(Y+Z)= profit or loss.

Again, thanks all of you for your help. As I contemplate my future strategy for this team, perhaps someone can queue up "Should I stay or should I go?" by The Clash. Meanwhile, time for me to see who does and doesn't make the first cut.

As I contemplate my future strategy for this team, perhaps someone can queue up "Should I stay or should I go?" by The Clash. Meanwhile, time for me to see who does and doesn't make the first cut.

Ok brother here you go......
https://youtu.be/7r0iuoj-KNU

Though I feel this one better applies to the matriculation of my projects.


https://youtu.be/q3Yl4ehzX-o

First, I know of no secret to making money in this game on the transfer wire or otherwise. My teams rarely make money because I like to spend it on player salaries to help me win/stay competitive. I know other teams are rich as hell but mine is not, my success has come from building up my arena and training my own players. I never had the time to scour the transfer list to look for bargains.
Your arena will make more money in higher leagues as long as you remain competitive. So there is the rub. To remain competitive you need more expensive players. As soon as you advance you must raise ticket prices at the next level.

Last edited by Joe D. at 8/31/2018 11:45:26 AM

Well being competitive combined with quality of opponent seems to be in my view a driving factor. But my gate receipts vary so wildly and on a whim that it is hard to tell what will happen particularly on the bleachers. Case in point are my last two home dates . I drew over 11k against masters coming in after back to back wins. For CC I only drew 8387 coming in off back to back losses. One thing I noticed from last season, do not change pricing too often. Having the ability to set per game seems nice but doing so I think can cause confusion in the fan base.



An opening montage of sweat beading down the brow, thermometers blazing in the sun, and of various coaches wiping the perspiration away.

Cue: https://youtu.be/2SFt7JHwJeg


Announcer: as Summer draws to a close the heat turns up on thr battle between the conferences as tonight is the last chance to garner momentum before the break.


Deronimo seeks to bolster the bulge they have for the final spot in the baby blues while blizzards will be hoping to turn up the heat in club fed between that fine line that exists regarding which side of the relegation/playoff line.

in a battle between teams at the top the pistons will try to continue to pull away while round 2 tries to recover from the shocking loss to the Generals on Tuesday night.

Speaking of which the Generals get what looks to be the free pass against the minimalist daggers. But appearances are deceiving because even though the roster only has six players all six can play and a addition or two could easily lead to this team not just leaving the cellar but to being a spur in the saddle of their relegation opponent. So if it plays out that way, Dont forget who told ya.

The bunnies will seek to continue their slow climb against still struggling spike.

Cal looks to hold their position in the two hole against a masters squad trying to avoid slipping back down the chute.

Wadsworth will be looking for a strong road effort keep themselves in contention while stormz is settling in for a eventual relegation referendum.

The spiders will try to make their long climb out the water spout but CC is going to do their best to bring the reign and wash the spiders out.

And the kitties will try to keep pace at the top of club red while the nation seeks to continue to see if they can contour up enough to survive the overall campaign.

Our collective cup runneth is over, we'll look back to see how it played out. Massive action on the transfer wire, we will break down who wants to do what. And Sybill of course will gaze into her crystal ball. As usual we will have it all as its a summer to fall edition of BB2Night

Last edited by Coach Lambini at 8/31/2018 4:00:17 PM

It's hard for me to tell a team to give up especially when you seem to have a lot of fight in you.

1st - Easier to make money in D3 or D4? My opinion you make money the same way in either divisions you just make more money as you increase in division i.e. Merchandise, TV, and $ to charge per seat.

2nd - Pay for a player? Tricky, You pay as low as you can to get the best value player. Go back and look at the transfers for teams to get an idea of what they paid.

3rd - How does one make a profit? I am kinda like Joe D, I might buy a player low, train then sell high. But, I spend most of my money on players and trainers to make a profit. Lake or Round 2 seemed to have endless cash I would defer to them.

BTW, you have to win to make money at the arena - no fan wants to buy tickets to see a team lose all the time. Don't disregard your fan survey.

Help this helps.

I tried a new strategy tonight and got WHOOPED! LOL.....I had never used outside isolation....wanted to see how my team would do with it.....needless to say, I won't do that again. I figured I wasn't gonna beat Deronimo at his place so experiment a little.