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Date: 1/27/2010 6:34:09 PM
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Better players compared to my rivals, not compared to BBB. Well my most expensive player have 70k salary. I dont think that i am a threat for anyone. Also as i tell you its not so easy as you say. I am out from the cup losing from the worse team of CBBA. Just check my schedule and you will see that.

About the enthusiasm/game shape ive made a proposal before. Play all BBB games on arcade mode. So nobody will have to worry about them, and most important nobody will complain about it. I dont count the injuries. Those can happen to anyone.

About the 10.000 users that they dont have our chances of domestic success its NOT something that you can blame us so dont punish us either. Blame the system that gives the chances for the dynasties. As i said again this is a bigger problem in my eyes.

Having domestic success doesnt mean BBB success. If you think that i will invite you too in Cyprus. Cypriots are very hospitable people and almost anyone can speak English, i can sure you that you will have a good life here

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Date: 1/27/2010 6:36:35 PM
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This team from Lubnan (51910) started when I was the Lubnan U21 coach. In Lubnan there are currently 8 active teams, and probably more than a half are semi-bots. He connected from time to time and I gave him some advice, but of course he was not a full-time manager.

He makes 528k $/week and he can win the Lubnan League and Cup with a roster cheaper than 100$. A experienced manager would win both even with much lower salaries than him. That means more than 400k $/week. He just need to hire a good trainer, but not a good doctor or PR manager. He can spend 20-30k $/week in the draft and 20-30$ in the trainer. If he does things well he will get back those 20 $/week and more in draft players to sell or train. An experienced manager will be able to train 6 player/week at 2 positions or 3 player/week. He can also be the NT coach and put his own player to play and get experience, get money in merchandising, and he can also sell them at higher price because of the "flag". Of course he can also make much more money by speculating with the transfer market. And I´m probably missing something...

So it's not extra 250k/week, it might be double, triple and more, and of course things will go exponentially faster.
3, 4, 5, 6 seasons? 1 year, 1 year and a half, 2 years???

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
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I am out from the cup losing from the worse team of CBBA. Just check my schedule and you will see that.


...and?

I'm out of the cup after losing to a DIV team that's better then the D1 team you lost to. Just saying, the quality that you have to compete with to earn the money you are making is much lower. You're profit margins should be much higher. Until many more teams sign up and stay in BB for awhile, that won't change.

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Date: 1/27/2010 6:51:59 PM
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The quality that i am facing is compared to yours. YES my margin profit compared to you is larger, but i have only 183k salaries. Can that make my team competitive on BBB? 2 seasons that played on BBB ive lost easily from the 1st round. I have strong team compared my rivals NOT with you or any other big counties.

You have more profit than me!!!! Whats your TV contract? i have already told you mine (108k). I have data from Italy and Hellas. Both have way higher income than me from TV. In 3-4 seasons that i will be able to compete on BBB your team will gain at least 2M more than me. But with 2M you can get 1 quality backup or a great trainee, and i am not even talking about merchandise. The max that i got it was 117k. For those elite teams thats there low.

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Date: 1/27/2010 7:06:45 PM
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It cannot be so difficult to stablish a relationship between the money you can get from your arena and the salary of your roster. So a new team in a small country will get money proportionally to his team worth. When he gets better player, he'll get more money. His income will raise as fast as he can train and improve the value of the team, and the economy in those countries will more reasonable.
- This will not kill the options of these teams to win the B3. It will just slow down their capacity of growing.
- This will be realistic, because not many fans will attend a match with mediocre players. The better the players are, most people will be interested in this game and attend the matches.
- At the same time the market inflation will be reduced with less "new richs" biddings.
- This will be fair for all BB users, because this kind of relationship does already naturally exists in bigger countries.

Last edited by Emilio at 1/27/2010 7:08:33 PM

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An experienced manager will be able to train 6 player/week at 2 positions or 3 player/week. He can also be the NT coach and put his own player to play and get experience, get money in merchandising, and he can also sell them at higher price because of the "flag"...


If i put my name on the elections in Cyprus i will get at least 85%, and i will be easily invite my players and do what i want to do, but this is an ethical cheating. For me win its not everything. I am playing for fun. Wins its just one part of it. One of my goals is to see Cyprus community to grow. An other is to help my country Hellas (i am Greek citizen) to be better. I want when i retire from the game to left something behind me. As you can see you can have many reasons to play this game than just win at any cost.

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Date: 1/27/2010 7:19:09 PM
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and i hope you praise god, that you could play BB with a real competition, which in my eyes makes it funny not boring.

Of course, it's more funny when getting to the top is very hard. That's why making the competition in small countries harder, will make them enjoy more the game than now, as we do. Let's bring some of our "amusement" also to the small countries!



how you raise their competition, if you just ppunish them .. and maybe push the few players away, who play it and could help beginners.

Don't forget maybe they develop fast, but you could also catch up faster - let's say they play a speed version for a bit.

From: Emilio

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Date: 1/27/2010 7:28:35 PM
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Nobody is punishing anybody. Bringing a normal BB economy to small countries will make them play the same game that made us mad. It will be much funnier for them.
On the other hand, most small countries are small because their population is simply not interested in basketball, not interesed in basket simulators, not interested even in Internet...
Just check who are the biggest countries... those who have strong basket leagues.
And also most managers in small countries are not native from these countries, they are american, spanish, greeks...

Try to make an online cricket simulator succesful in Spain...

Last edited by Emilio at 1/27/2010 7:30:17 PM

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Date: 1/27/2010 7:42:47 PM
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I have a solution. Just cancel the B3. Or make the B3 a tournament where you make no money and get absolutely no benefit or loss from playing in it (essentially just a private league). Will this make all the complaining stop?

Either that, or let's just meld all the countries together and have one big uber-BB nation. Or let's make BB a continental game. Imagine how boring that would be.

Your only real competition is against teams in your own country and they face all the same challenges as your team. As someone mentioned, the B3 is really a useless tournament. So I really don't see what the big issue is.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
From: brian

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Date: 1/27/2010 8:06:04 PM
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but i have only 183k salaries


You have more profit than me!!!!


I have almost 500k in salaries and similiar sized arena/prices, it's not possible that make more profit.


Baseline Weekly Economy
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 462 791 Attendance: $ 556 471
Staff Salaries: $ 67 298 Merchandise: $ 90 116
Scouting: $ 0 TV Contract: $ 150 480
Total: $ 530 089 Total: $ 797 067
Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 266 978


You have to be making close to double what I'm making every week. You get about the same attendance revenue but require less then 200k to stay competitive and near the top of your league. That's 300K more your clearing just on tickets minus salaries.



Last edited by brian at 1/27/2010 8:06:16 PM

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