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Date: 9/26/2010 12:32:16 PM
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(25767135) thoughts on this one any one?

From: Alvarrr
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Date: 10/3/2010 4:10:33 PM
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Hey, someone could explain me what happened in my game? (26183822) I totally guessed correctly which attack he was going to use and also the match report seems to give me a clear advantage in order to win the game (it is even more incredible the average point scoring for every position that the report gives). It even looks like if I had played without the home court advantage.

This is so discouraging...

Thanks for the answers.

Last edited by Alvarrr at 10/3/2010 4:11:47 PM

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152631.61 in reply to 152631.60
Date: 10/3/2010 4:30:03 PM
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+10 turnovers, +10 offensive rebounds allowed, +10 free throws allowed. They're some pretty big hurdles to overcome.

Patient isn't a very effective offense most of the time in my opinion and if you're getting 23 turnovers in a Patient offense, you've really got a problem with your passing/handling.

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Date: 10/3/2010 4:41:35 PM
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I know the +10 turnovers is totally my fault, that's why I played patience, imagine how many could have they been using a tactic with a quicker pace. The +10 offensive rebounds allowed were something I knew it was going to happen, if the team I'm playing against is going to use Run and Gun, has normal-decent outside shooting stats and one of his players is an awesome shooter (for 5th division) wouldn't you sacrifice your rebounding for having your perimeter protected?
And well the +10 free throws allowed is totally normal if we consider that the team whom I playing against is only 5-7 points up with few time to end the game (the same tactic as always, foul and try a 3 point shot, foul and try another 3 point shot, etc.)
Really, I don't want to sound ungrateful for your opinion, and I know I have to do something about handling and passing; but I think that today's match is not reflected in the match's report I have read. Also my players' shapes were much better than the ones of my rival.

Last edited by Alvarrr at 10/3/2010 4:44:18 PM

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Date: 10/3/2010 6:41:22 PM
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My point was that you just gave up way too many shots and weren't taking enough yourself. Any time you allow the other team to take an extra 20 or so shots in a game, you're pretty likely to lose.

Yes, the ratings and that sort of thing look nice but team ratings are just a very loose indicator of things.

From: Marot

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152631.64 in reply to 152631.62
Date: 10/3/2010 9:13:08 PM
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Patient is a totally ineffective taktik unless your team is quite better than the other.

In general your attack dindt work in any way, you did low % of shoots attempts made and take in care that his defenses aren't that good. You lost 23 posesions, so I assume that your offense movement dindt work, apart from that you havent good players on passing.

When your team does a 28-74 in ''TC'' you should ask what failed there and if you see your offense movement is low and you also watch that his defenses arent really good but you also lost 23 posesions then its clearlly that your offensive taktik dindt wokr in any way.


Just an advice, never never never decide your offensive attack considering the opponent rebound and your rebound,decide the offensive taktikt according to your strenght points in attack of your players and the weakness of the opponent defense.

Antoher thing for example, watch how he was able to produce you more fouls than you even if you had a good OD also helped for the 3-2. Choosing to attack from inside or outside will in general produce more fouls and help you than using a neutral attack offense that barely put in foul troubles the othher opponent in compare to you.

PD: Im not a lover of the neutral offensive attacks, in ''theory'' its based on first defense well and after you will have your chances on attack, but this is another example that this kind of taktikts its hard they really work fine, because its hard the GE finds the best option on attack(it usually ends the match with low efficiency in shoot attemps made). Not to talk I pretty dislike how this taktikts work with a slower pace... You will hardly win with them unless the other team is much weaker than you.

Last edited by Marot at 10/3/2010 9:19:07 PM

From: Alvarrr

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Date: 10/5/2010 11:04:46 AM
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Thank you very much for your opinion Marot, lesson has been learned now. I'll try to take as many points into consideration whenever judging a rival (I didn't look only Rebounds but I have to admit I didn't study too much my rival).
Talking about winning or losing, I ended my season in first place so I think it has been a pretty good result. Maybe Patience is not as effective in higher divisions, but I can tell you that it nearly make me won my league (I know I didn't win it, and maybe I lost my promotion chances using it, but the season globally has been a success).
Thanks again for the participation and I would like to encourage anyone else who has an opinion to post it on the thread.

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152631.66 in reply to 152631.65
Date: 10/7/2010 8:31:40 AM
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this game had massive dif in ratings and actual score too
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Date: 11/2/2010 5:11:17 AM
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how is that possible?

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Date: 11/2/2010 7:32:51 AM
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Rebounds and free throws. Your team had -24 rebounds (including -16 offensive) and -16 FT attempts. Good outside shooting is really all you had in your favour.

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