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From: SREZ

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Date: 1/6/2012 2:58:26 PM
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Interesting. You would save a significant amount of money training a player like player 2, both for buying a player off the TL because of the lower POT needed and the weekly salary.

Though player two may be very weak on the offensive side, I would take his defensive skills over Player 1's any day.

Last edited by SREZ at 1/6/2012 3:00:45 PM

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Date: 1/6/2012 4:03:59 PM
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While player #2 looks awesome for a lot of teams the trouble is most teams and especially NTs want the flexibility to be able to vary their inside/outside attacks, and the sad fact is that a lot of teams just want to run LI 95% of the time.

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Date: 1/6/2012 4:39:55 PM
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Especially NTs should be able to have a player pool which doesnt need flexibility but uses its´ specialists based on game plan and opponent, won´t you agree?

Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, die Dummheit und das All...
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Date: 1/6/2012 6:19:58 PM
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Especially NTs should be able to have a player pool which doesnt need flexibility but uses its´ specialists based on game plan and opponent, won´t you agree?

Atleast I do agree, NTs can have specialists for different tactics and opponents (and all-around players too), but most of club teams cannot. The options: You can have a many-sided wide-ranging roster with which you change the tactic for every game and perhaps play a lot of base offense. But that is pretty difficult and the more common solution is to specialise in a couple of tactics. The question is in which tactics should you specialise. Perhaps an inside defence orientated team might work well for most teams run LI offense as we've noticed. And as many people writing in this thread seem to agree, shot blocking is the key to succesful inside defence. And its cheaper than IS.
rubbercube

Last edited by rubbercube at 1/7/2012 3:29:13 AM

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Date: 1/7/2012 4:01:20 PM
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I know he can pretty much compete with the national PF, which he happened to play a couple of times during his career
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/6742609/overview.aspx


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..slippery slope my friend..dont compare ur dude with the living LEGEND!! :-D

allways have in mind that u didnt have enough competition in ur league..ur player is allways at the top of the rating chart ;-)

btw: 35 skills difference r not "pretty much compete" ;-))))))


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205736.63 in reply to 205736.57
Date: 1/8/2012 5:42:05 AM
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Player #1
IS, ID, RB all 14
others 5
Salary 64k, potential needed: allstar

Player #2
ID, RB, SB all 14
others 5
Salary 36K, potential needed: star


Are they real players? Just asking, I always thought that the salary was calculated in a different way.

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Date: 1/8/2012 5:48:00 AM
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Players get MORE expensive and QUICKER if you rotatet IS, Reb., ID instead of IS, Reb, ID, SB.


Put in this way I agree, it's like training only one skill, it will make the salary jump up by a lot; but - I'm not a big men trainer, so I'm asking - I bet we all agree that for example a 15 14 14 7 player has a salary much lower than a 15 14 14 10; is that SB difference worth the salary? And again; comparing the first player and one with a same salary buth higher SB (maybe 13 13 12 10?), who has the better impact on the match?

PS No need to shout anyway. :-)

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Date: 1/8/2012 6:14:51 AM
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Didn´t mean to shout, just tried to underline ;)

I think the main problem is that SB is not to be seen in the direct stats. Just like the advantage of place 4 over place 5 cannot be seen immediately, shot blocking is a subtle thing and most of us just speculate on it beeing useful or useless.

Same for the question about shotblocking and guards - I guess simply nobody knows...

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Date: 1/8/2012 6:54:49 AM
Zwölf
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Second Team:
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Player #1
IS, ID, RB all 14
others 5
Salary 64k, potential needed: allstar

Player #2
ID, RB, SB all 14
others 5
Salary 36K, potential needed: star


Are they real players? Just asking, I always thought that the salary was calculated in a different way.

Those salaries are accordig to the salarycalculator season 17 by moutinho (or sth like that was the name)
rubbercube

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Date: 1/8/2012 7:01:53 AM
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Interesting! May you provide me a link to it?

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Date: 1/8/2012 7:06:17 AM
Zwölf
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Second Team:
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Players get MORE expensive and QUICKER if you rotatet IS, Reb., ID instead of IS, Reb, ID, SB.


Put in this way I agree, it's like training only one skill, it will make the salary jump up by a lot; but - I'm not a big men trainer, so I'm asking - I bet we all agree that for example a 15 14 14 7 player has a salary much lower than a 15 14 14 10; is that SB difference worth the salary? And again; comparing the first player and one with a same salary buth higher SB (maybe 13 13 12 10?), who has the better impact on the match?

PS No need to shout anyway. :-)

Well Id say training the SB from 7->10 pretty much is worth it but if you want to make and all-around center like that (who is good in both defence and offense) then he will be very expensive anyway. With about the same salary you could get two big men: an offensive 18 11 13 1 (who'd have some PA too) and a defender 9 16 14 15. Havent checked those salaries but just about like that.
Atleast Id take rather two specialists. And play them in different tactics.
rubbercube

Last edited by rubbercube at 1/8/2012 7:08:32 AM

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