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From: brian

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Why would I train jump shot for my center?

Even if, equating jump shot for centers to od/id for small forwards is a poor comparison. They're not even close to each other in importance.

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From: CrazyEye

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because the centers are your others young guys when you train PF and like to that on their normal born position.

From: Kukoc

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Because, as I mentioned and you've ignored, PF training is nicely bundled with center training.

Maybe my center is 30 years old and I don't want to train him? I want single position training for PF!
Jump Shot for forwards, you're not paying attention to all the training options out there.

I ment JR here. I made a mistake as I have everything in my national language. Please do not suggest team training here as this is not an option if you even do not like 3 pos training.

I think it would take away SF spot uniqueness if you make him easy(er) to train. I don't want different height 5 SF-s playing the game. There will be lots of PF-s and SG-s playing out of position at SF spot even for the defence.

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bi saying he had to play SF when your PF should stay at PF when Jumpshot trainint ;)

From: brian

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Maybe my center is 30 years old and I don't want to train him? I want single position training for PF!


Sell your center and get a younger one, or play your center at PF, he'll do pretty well there. A SF that needs inside training wont do so well at c/pf, but a center at pf will.

In fact, I'd rather train a 30yo in his right position then train a 19yo out of position. I prefer the game to do its best to mimic reality. What do you prefer, fantasy-land?

I think it would take away SF spot uniqueness if you make him easy(er) to train.


Uniqueness? There's SF's that are guards and SF's that are big men, how unique is that? All that does is force people to play particular tactics.

You prefer a training system that chooses our tactics for us. I prefer one that gives us more options.

You prefer a training system that requires a team to play weaker lineups (in what real world scenario does that EVER happen?). I prefer one that allows players to grow in the position their meant to play in the long run. Look at Michael Jordan playing center so he can work on his post moves!


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From: Kukoc

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Sell your center and get a younger one, or play your center at PF, he'll do pretty well there. A SF that needs inside training wont do so well at c/pf, but a center at pf will.

In fact, I'd rather train a 30yo in his right position then train a 19yo out of position. I prefer the game to do its best to mimic reality. What do you prefer, fantasy-land?

Center talk was hypothetical because I got 25 yo center. How can you say that play my center at pf and vice versa isn't that just what you are fighting against? Playing out of position? My SF plays as well at PF as he plays at SF. But like you said it I want all my players to play at their spot. If you want to play your SF at SF spot why are you suggesting me to play my PF at C? I think you have missed the point that this is a game and it is a fantasy-land so it can't be exactly as real life.

You prefer a training system that chooses our tactics for us. I prefer one that gives us more options.

If you change something change it for every position give every position single pos and skill training then it is fair and you got gazillion options to melt your brain with.

You prefer a training system that requires a team to play weaker lineups (in what real world scenario does that EVER happen?). I prefer one that allows players to grow in the position their meant to play in the long run. Look at Michael Jordan playing center so he can work on his post moves!


I can see that you are exited and running out of ideas:) Who in the real world need 48 min a week to make his training effective? Games give players experience to use their skills. Training in the real world is a "little" different. Is there really just let's train C spot this week... You amuse me:) Michael Jordan can prolly play any position in basketball.

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From: brian

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I think you have missed the point that this is a game and it is a fantasy-land so it can't be exactly as real life.


But it can be improved from where it is, but you prefer otherwise. The GE programming has attempted to mimic a real life game, why is that?

I have no idea the skills of your SF and is equally good at PF, but he's a pretty rare find if so. Or, you have a crappy PF by comparison. Or, you play an inside guy at SF, which is exactly the point of this thread, creating actual SF's.

If you change something change it for every position give every position single pos and skill training then it is fair and you got gazillion options to melt your brain with.


We're proposing a minor change, and your retort is "no, you either keep it as it is or radically change it" You can't compromise.

I can see that you are exited and running out of ideas:)


Yet, here I am in the suggestions forum supporting a new idea...

Who in the real world need 48 min a week to make his training effective? Games give players experience to use their skills. Training in the real world is a "little" different. Is there really just let's train C spot this week...


I'm willing to discuss radical changes to the training system, but since people are unwilling to be open minded about minor changes, whats the point?

You amuse me:)


You appear to be easily amused.

Michael Jordan can prolly play any position in basketball.


Sure, he has good post moves, yet the bulls never played him at center. I wonder why? He could have improved faster playing at center. Is it possible that, all the coaches would be fired if they did something that stupid?





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wow, this thread sank worse than titanic

From: chihorn
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Yup, it's pretty silly now. Time to just let us train SFs individually and move on...

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Using your own logic PF has no single position training why should SF have one?

the request is a training as Jump shot for Forward
Pressure for forward,bi-role SF-PF which train 50-50% ID and OD

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