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132109.6 in reply to 132109.1
Date: 02/19/2010 16:06:51
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ei tu mmi stai simpatico almeno sei stato onesto e hai chiesto scusa non come altri BB che silimitavano a dire chiudiamo quest post....bravo!:)

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132109.7 in reply to 132109.1
Date: 02/19/2010 16:11:48
Freccia Azzurra
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Ciao Patje, personally I don't care about trasfer list itself but imho is wrong that when something is going in the right direction someone out of Italy and out of our gms must decide that we cannot "autoregulate" ourselves, this happened with a lituanian guy in the case of "transfer list" thread and above all with gm kozo in the "valutation" thread in our help forum. I don't like at all the way to moderate the global forum tons of threads closed, useless discussion about the hairs of the players opened and the same 2-3 guys giving answers like a child.
Now the situation seems Italy vs world and this is a pity cause we (or I) tried to suggest some interesting things, day trading, arena, global economy and so on but on this mess there were 2 threads closed thanks to foreing people without no reason; imho an active forum can give some benefits to BBs, try to have a look in the French forum, the Death seems more happy
Once again I'm not interested in specific threads but is not good when your freedom is limited.

The point is that really there was since the beginning a very bad lack in communication between BBs and all the community, I hope that you can change something

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132109.8 in reply to 132109.2
Date: 02/19/2010 16:12:45
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(NdZezo: non spammate, mandate solo suggerimenti sensati!)
Saluti!


Spammate solo a Zezo :P

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132109.9 in reply to 132109.1
Date: 02/19/2010 16:16:00
Shohoku II
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Bravo!!
This is the right way..you are the first that at least try "peacefully"(without close discussion saying that you are the strongest and the most beautiful XD) to find a solution.

From: BB-Patrick

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132109.10 in reply to 132109.7
Date: 02/19/2010 16:27:55
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someone out of Italy and out of our gms must decide that we cannot "autoregulate" ourselves, this happened with a lituanian guy in the case of "transfer list" thread and above all with gm kozo in the "valutation" thread in our help forum.


This also was one of the main problems your Italian GMs also noted. This has been communicated with the senior GMs already, and the whole way of there should change immediately.


The point is that really there was since the beginning a very bad lack in communication between BBs and all the community, I hope that you can change something


Well, that's certainly what we are aiming for.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 02/19/2010 16:29:01

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132109.11 in reply to 132109.7
Date: 02/19/2010 16:29:09
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try to have a look in the French forum, the Death seems more happy


L'unico thread che aveva portato un pò di vitalità (merci Tuddù) l'hanno chiuso...

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132109.12 in reply to 132109.5
Date: 02/19/2010 16:30:09
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Io però ancora non capisco quale sia il problema sollevato dal thread valutazioni.
Cosa si cerca di evitare bloccandolo? Verso cosa stavamo andando?
Sul serio, anche ad essere propositivi non so quali suggerimenti si possano dare se neanche il problema e' definito! (o magari sfugge solo a me)

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132109.13 in reply to 132109.1
Date: 02/19/2010 16:55:45
AS Barroom Heroes
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Well, this is certainly the right approach to finding a solution to this problem (which I am still convinced is more a problem of principle than anything) and in general to have a more peaceful atmosphere in the discussions between the italian comunity and the global community.

I'm sure you'll see that even if you can't find a perfect solution to the various threads issue, just the fact that communication between BBs and non-italian GMs and the italian community will be improved (on both sides) will help avoid these kinds of problems in the future.


Having said that, please fix the draft.

From: ned

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132109.14 in reply to 132109.10
Date: 02/19/2010 16:57:19
Freccia Azzurra
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someone out of Italy and out of our gms must decide that we cannot "autoregulate" ourselves, this happened with a lituanian guy in the case of "transfer list" thread and above all with gm kozo in the "valutation" thread in our help forum.


This also was one of the main problems your Italian GMs also noted. This has been communicated with the senior GMs already, and the whole way of there should change immediately.


The point is that really there was since the beginning a very bad lack in communication between BBs and all the community, I hope that you can change something


Well, that's certainly what we are aiming for.


Ok perfect, that's all from my side.

You can close this thread

:p

Edit: I've sent a pm to Mark some days ago, pls tell him that I'd like to have an answer...

Last edited by ned at 02/19/2010 17:05:48

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132109.15 in reply to 132109.13
Date: 02/19/2010 17:10:05
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I am still convinced is a problem of the game.

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132109.16 in reply to 132109.15
Date: 02/19/2010 17:27:48
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This situation is very sad.
The problem must be solved, of course, speaking in a peaceful manner as we are doing now, and for that I thank you.
I think you noticed that every time an Italian post a comment on global, immediately becomes object of criticisms as "Italians only know how to complain ..." This situation leads to tough comparisons, misunderstandings, sarcasms, inappropriate remarks and does not lead to a real solution, as in this case.
Frankly in the midst of this pandemonium of opinion, the explanation given by Charles did not seem very understandable, at least, I have not fully understood .. he said that the sections of the Italian forum workload our moderators, in short, that were slightly unnecessary.
We just want to say that the fact is quite strange and restrictive to our community.
When, in support of our reasons, we say that we are, together with Spain, one of the largest community, we don't do it for being arrogant, but simply to show that if these sections are being closed for futility, in a large community these sections can lead to a significant exchange of opinions, so they are more than useful: if I say that a player is worth 100k, another argues that it is worth 50k, these two simple numbers can rise to a discussion on impacts, for example, that the skill jump shot may have on the market (example made by M.P.).

I really hope not to have misunderstood everything, writing a papyrus for nothing XD

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